I will preface this thread with the admission that I am far from my element in any political or prophetic discussions but I feel compelled to bring
this here for your consideration and contributions.
Several days ago, an unknown event led me to some text on the internnet and I wrote this thread:
Who Wrote This?? (No Cheating!)
-This thread deals with the similarity in propaganda
and talking points used by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda in the late 30's and early 40's and those used by the many sides of
several pressing issues facing the United States now.
Four days later, again, for reasons unknown to me, I stumbled upon an article in 'Stars and Stripes' and wrote this thread:
How to Spin a War
-This thread examines the 'selection' of journalists to 'embed'
with troops based on their positions and past reports, on the US military's actions. In other words, journalists being selected that will report
positively on the war efforts.
Although the similar use of propaganda by Nazi Germany and The US today was fairly apparent to me, I felt there was more to this story than I was
grasping at the time. I did what I have learned to do here on ATS. I sought out those that I regard as experts and asked for input.
Timewave Zero is not my baby and like probably a good portion of you, I was introduced to it by Evasius and his insightful threads on the subject. It
is through his information that I even bothered to learn about Terrence Mckenna and his Novelty theory. Please read these, if you have not already.
(It's going to take just a little while)
Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition
Air France Flight 447 - Timewave Zero Correlation
Timewave Zero - a closer look
I took my uneasy feeling to Evasius
and was told in a nutshell, that although he too
sensed some broad connections in the propaganda machines of several historical elements and current leaders, he didn't have the time to explore it
further due to many obligations. I am certainly hoping he will stop by sometime in the midst of this discussion to offer any enlightenment that he may
have for us, and his encouragement is greatly appreciated.
I couldn't escape the thought that I was watching events in history replay themselves. If you open your mind, you may see the same thing. Swastikas
have come out, labels are being thrown around, people are agitated and there are many, many active battlefields.
To try and make sense of what I was feeling, I printed out a wave using the online Timewave calculator at
This was the most accessible version to me as I am currently running Vista and
didn't want to mess with the DosBox application just yet.
Into the date range fields provided, I entered the late 1930's (January, 1938) to just a little bit in the future (December 2010.) For convenience in
this discussion, I have circled on the below graph, the sections of the time wave that seem to match each other perfectly. You'll notice from the
rough graph below that these years fall approximately in 1938 and 2010.
To insure that these two sections of the wave corresponded with each other, I zoomed into each of the two times affected and increased the size of
each, by limiting the time displayed to encompass mainly just the times in question. Here is the slice representing January, 1935 - December, 1945...
..and this slice represents January, 2003 - December, 2012
To me, and my limited experience, the similarity in the two sections is undeniable. Armed with this similarity, I wanted to find out exactly where we
are RIGHT NOW on this timeline. When I entered it, I came up with this:
The next logical step, in my beginner's opinion, was to see where this point correlates to the section of the wave that matches the current one, but
in the past. As close as I could get, with the time I had, this is what showed up.
The period of time from the past that roughly correlates to the section of the wave we are traversing now is the middle of May, 1942.
As you all certainly know by now, this was a very dark and eventful period in the existence of mankind. World War II was raging on many different
fronts. There are many timelines of events of this period available, if you wish to look for them, but here is a fairly decent one, if you can get
past the source. Wiki timeline of 1942
Here are some of the highlights, to get a sense of what was going on in the world during that year.
For starters, it was just a few months after the Japanes bombing of Pearl Harbor and thus, shortly after the United States began it's publicly
viewable actions in WWII.
January 1 – WWII: The United States and Philippines troops fight the Battle of Bataan.
January 20 – WWII: Nazis at the Wannsee conference in Berlin decide that the "final solution to the Jewish problem" is relocation, and later
January 26 – WWII: The first American forces arrive in Europe, landing in Northern Ireland.
February 2 – WWII: President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signs an executive order directing the internment of Japanese Americans and the seizure of
their property. February 8 - Daylight saving time goes into effect in the United States.
February 24 – Propaganda: The Voice of America begins broadcasting.
April 3 – WWII: Japanese forces begin an all-out assault on the United States and Filipino troops on the Bataan Peninsula.
April 18 – Tokyo, Japan is bombed by B-25 Mitchells commanded by then-Lieutenant Colonel James Doolittle. May – The first undersea oil pipeline is
tested in Operation Pluto.
May 6 – WWII: On Corregidor, the last American and Filipino forces in the Philippines surrender to the Japanese.
June 1 – WWII: Mexico declares war on Germany, Italy and Japan.
July 6 – Holocaust: Anne Frank's family goes into hiding in an attic above her father's office in an Amsterdam warehouse.
July 16 - Holocaust: By order of the Vichy France government headed by Pierre Laval, French police officers round-up 13,000-20,000 Jews and imprison
them in the Winter Velodrome.
October 16 – A hurricane and flood in Bombay kill 40,000.
October 28 – The Alaska Highway is completed.
December 1 – Gasoline rationing begins in the United States.
Also in the spring of 1942:
A Japanese "research unit" known as Unit 731 used thousands of civilians and prisoners as human guinea pigs.
Victims were infected with plague, gas gangrene, and anthrax. Their limbs were frozen in frostbite studies, and some were forced to drink mustard gas.
Others were dissected alive in order to study their working organs.
This is a VERY MINOR sampling of some of the things that happened in 1942. It was a very busy year.
A point worth noting, IMO, is that The German army had already disregarded the lessons of the past and invaded the USSR. Napoleon had made the same
mistake. In 1942, they were well on their way to utter defeat in a battle that they should have never undertaken. They were seriously overextended.
All throughout this time, while wars waged on several continents, the United States dumped billions of dollars into arming and deploying OUR troops
as well as those of other nations. The year before, while the United States was still technically 'nuetral,' they approved the
This act allowed the United states to offer aid by way of equipment and material support to other nations allied against or affected by the German
aggression. Two of the beneficiaries of this program were Iran and Iraq.
President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed the program in order to make the United States “the arsenal of democracy” at a time when Great
Britain was fighting the Axis Powers alone. Opponents denounced the proposal as “an act of war.” Those supporting the President insisted that the
best way to defend America was to give aid to its friends.
IMO, this is officially when it became the United State's role to be the world's police force, or the 'Arsenal of Democracy.' That sounds much
Whether you choose to believe it or not, history reports that 1942 was a pivotal and indeed very damaging year for an Empire that had world ambitions
and the resources to carry them out. After instituting a 'final solution' that dictated the extermination of a large group of people, and seeming
victory in many neighboring countries, perhaps unknown to them, the Nazi regime was beginning to take their last breaths. It is my assertion that, had
it not been for grave tactical errors and the arrogance to dismiss history, the Nazi party would not have been stopped.
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