It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
I think it is very pertinent that the majority of the German People were being deceived and were supporting their military and political leaders out of a strong sense of Patriotism and Loyalty, much as we do today!
Originally posted by pizzaguy
As I recall from the history I had read, the German propaganda machine was incredible. Most Germans had no clue what their government was doing or the reasons why as published later in history books. Most did not know of the active genocide the military was doing. Most believed Hitler was doing the right thing. The efficiency of the Nazi party was hailed and admired worldwide before ...well the end.
So the questions in my mind and likely many others is.....if the correlations are scarily so similar, what IS going on that we don't know? What will history say about the USA and its population when this era ends? And finally, what power is it that could possibly be playing this game over and over so much so that many of humanity's most brilliant minds and personalities can do nothing but participate?
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
So, if May 1942 = Aug 2009, then Aug 1945 = Nov 2012....
pretty close, but does it correspond.
Surrender of Japan, September 2, 1945 = Dec 2012
Originally posted by KSPigpen
It wasn't my intention to compare Obama, or ANYONE with Hitler, really...I think Hitler was probably as much of a figurehead as anyone else. The extreme use of propaganda really preceded Hitler into office anyway.
One of the points was the comparison of the 'mood' of the people then and now. Things really stunk for most people in Germany and along came some promises and some guys that really seemed like patriots. The resulting empire was a lot different that what the people of Germany had bargained for.
I have now seen the famous German leader and also some of the great change that he has caused. Whatever you think of his methods, - and there are unquestionably not such as in a Parliamentary country - there is no doubt that he has accomplished a miraculous transformation in the spirit of the people, in their attitude to each other and in their social and economic appearance. For the first time since the war, there is a general feeling of safety. The people are cheerful. It is because in the whole country is a general happiness noticeable. It is a happier Germany. I've seen it everywhere, and fellow country people I've met during my trip to Germany were well aware of the changes and were deeply impressed. One man has accomplished this miracle. He is a born leader of men. A magnetic and dynamic personality with a sincere intention, a resolute will and a fearless heart. (Lloyd George, former British Prime Minister about the German Reich Daily Express, September 17. 1936)
Originally posted by Haunebu
How was the mood at that time and what makes you think so that that was the mood in Germany at that time? I know that Germany was in a very good mood, there was only war abroad at the beginning of World War 2. for Germans the real war started on May 30th 1942 with the Bombardment on Cologne but it didn't kill their spirit, that was done afterwards as they were framed with something also known as the Holocaust!
Originally posted by KSPigpen
I don't WANT to compare the United States to Nazi Germany. What I see happening is very frightening to me. I've been in a daze for a week, trying to make sense of it.
I don't think Obama is Hitler, or that Bush is Hitler, or that Americans are Nazis. What I honestly DO think, is that Americans are being led down a very dangerous road. The typical American is extremely patriotic and dedicated to his country. That is being taken advantage of. I just can't escape the feeling that we will be looking back, ashamed of how we were duped as a nation, just like the Germans.
Divided and conquered
Gripped by fear
Wishful thinking that it can't happen here
It's well underway but nobody knows
A repeat of history
That's how it goes
Tell the people that they're under attack
By man-eating foes from Mars or Iraq
Send in the troops
Strike to pre-empt
Control the airwaves
Fuel the reaction
Use every weapon of mass-distraction
Turn active people into passive consumers
Feed 'em bogus polls and hare-brained rumours
Cut back civil rights
Make no mistake
Tell 'em Homeland Security is now at stake
Whip up a frenzy, keep 'em suspended
Don't let 'em know that their Liberty's ended
Everything goes in the desperate states
The veneer of Democracy rapidly fades
Wreak total havoc on all opposition
In any event fulfill your mission
Totalitarian media sensation
You will give them domination
Never mind they call you a liar and thief
By now you're undisputed Commander-in-Chief!
~Stars and Stripes, KMFDM
People aren't bad by nature, and Americans aren't bad because of the things our government does in our name. However, one has to ask the long, difficult question of how could we silently stand by and let our government kill Liberty, Justice, Freedom and Democracy? And still, right after 9/11 no one tried stopping our leaders until many years later! Even today, no one has brought them forward for their crimes! Are we so apathetic that we cast our vote of approval through our inaction?
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions...and when you are asked to make a compromise for those seemingly good intentions, it's easier to surrender a little bit of your rights to get something else in return, justifying the means with the end. However, after you've done that enough times you find yourself somewhere you would have never chosen to be in a million lifetimes, a silent partner in crimes and atrocities you would have never committed yourself or allowed to happen if you hadn't been led there unknowingly with baby-steps along the way.