Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
reply to post by logistix111
Someone told you? Jeezuz, it isn't that hard to look up. In the UK it's called the NHS (National Health Service) and in Australia it's Medicare.
No, nobody keels over while waiting for free medical service.
That service saves lives. Such as mine. And that service is free. What you have to wait for is elective surgery, not emergency treatment.
Simple fact is this: The US has the worst health care system of the developed world. And all this bull# about a "uniquely American solution" is
because the health insurers don't want to give up the uniquely American abortion of a system they've got now that allows them to charge people
beforehand for a service they won't get later. That is certainly uniquely American.
reply to post by SevenThunders
With not much due respect, you don't understand reality.
1. No, I wasn't holding up the Khmer Rouge as an example to follow, I was showing that you have no clue what you're talking about when you start
using terminology such as communist and socialist.
2. As for the embargo, who was Cuba's major trading partner prior to the embargo?
3. As for your "great inventions" trope, how many of them were invented in Europe or the UK? All of them.
The railroad, the car, the internal combustion engine were all invented in Europe, where every country has socialised medicine. The internet was
invented by a Knight of the Realm who was born under the NHS and whose medical needs were provided for by the NHS.
As for your "crappy socialist" countries, no Australian bank went bust, broke or bankrupt, nor did they ask for a $ of federal funds while their
American cousins were screaming, kicking and dying from their own greed, even although Australia has socialised medicine.
I guess it isn't only health care that is uniquely American in America.
SEVEN THUNDER... I just had to congratulate you on your post. You hit the nail right on the head. Ive been around the world as a traveler, and have
even lived for a few months at a time in places like UK, Australia, New Zealand, who have great health care for all. In fact, once when spending 3
months in Melbourne , my 3 year old son became ill. We went to the hospital. He was seen in less than 30 minutes, treated with attention and care I
have only seen at our private pediatrician here, and when I pulled out my credit card to pay the bill, I was told No way. And even handed a
prescription for a base price of $20.
The US use to be a top contender for best health care, but that was when we had a strong middle class, low unemployment, Doctors weren't all
specialist at $200 for a minute visit, CEO's were not making 4000 times the average workers wage, CEO's like the now gov of Florida Rick Scott were
not ripping off the medical system for billions of dollars, and When a good steady profit was considered a great thing and companies were not being
blackmailed into continued high profit growth or analyst would ruin their stock values with their words.
Then a few well positioned and powerful sociopaths got control of politicians, schools and many corporations and in their campaign to control it all,
they ruined the whole country. All in the name of power and more and more profit. Face it, when you have 100 million in the bank, how much more do you
really need? But they continue to take it from the working people, and the country as a whole, destroying the country, the people, and all.
Fighting health care was their way to keep control, power, and profits on the rise. They want no rules or regulations for themselves, but insist on
enforcing their will upon the rest of us, and demand the gov enforce their will. I'm just waiting for the day when a real disaster in health care
happens, and the rich and greedy run in panic , crying about why the gov doesn't provide health care to the ill people, to protect the rich from
being surrounded by masses with deadly diseases. Maybe it will take an Ebola or black plague out break before they wake up from their sociopath
I applaud universal health care for all. I like the idea of not having the wonder if someone has been checked out for TB or worse when they cough
standing next to me in an elevator. But with our greed driven system, I worry each time.
Oh, I just wanted to add, I know people who moved here from other countries, that buy plane tickets to go home for medical treatment when they are
ill. Air fare is cheaper than paying the cost of care here. I even know a Pharmacist , who is from Russia , and she flies home for care in Russia
because she saves so much money doing it, even with her insurance wal greens gives her. !! Says a lot about our system here I think.