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Originally posted by Republican08
Heard regrettedly alot about this.
Quite a few mexican drug smugglers shipping in drugs to our youth here in the US, have a statue along with a tattoo of this Deity, or just a tattoo of this deity.
It is a quite nicely put Satanic god.
It is despicable, it's vengeful hateful, preaches hurting those who hurt you, may you safely carry drugs to children in another country. May you rape those who have raped, or rape those you want.
May you get the gold you want.
People will believe anything, if they think it will accomplish this.
If you want money get a job, don't pray to some statue and devote your life to it.
C'mon, this is the worst thing i've ever seen in my life, a worse religion than satanism.
If I could, kill one person. It would of been whoever spread the idea of the god of the dead. And call it a saint at that.
Edit to add: Sorry I didn't read your thread at all, I saw the name of the thread and immediately posted if it's off topic let me know.
[edit on 14-8-2009 by Republican08]
Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
And he quotes a saying I never heard before (but I like it) EL DIABLO Y LA MUERTE SON HERMANO Y HERMANA = the devil and death are brother and sister.
Never forget that since you got born you started to die little by little and soon our meeting it must come true.
A fortune teller aligned with the Santisima Muerte is expected to face a federal judge on Tuesday afternoon.
Claudia Elena Gomez and five others are facing a multitude of charges after a plan to steal drug money from one of her clients went horribly wrong.
The McAllen-based psychic and the others have been jailed since June for an ambush-style attack on an off-duty Border Patrol agent in Mission.
Court records obtained by Action 4 News show that Arizona Border Patrol agent and his 10-year-old daughter were visiting family in the Rio Grande Valley but were chased and attacked by mistake.
A criminal complaint filed in the case shows that the group's true target was one of Gomez's clients who drove the same type of Cadillac.
The complaint shows that Gomez was a card reader and worshiper of the Santisima Muerte, a Mexican religious icon followed by drug traffickers, criminals and others.
Gomez told investigators that the incident started when her client had come to her for protective prayers.
The client told Gomez that she was traveling to Michigan where she was going to pick up a large amount of drug money and bring it back to the Valley.
The McAllen fortune teller allegedly turned around and hatched a plot to steal the money from her own client.
The group was supposed to split the cash from the heist but ended up facing federal firearms and carjacking charges.
Gomez allegedly worked with Juan Vite Martinez, Jose Wenceslado Mejia, Nieves Rogelio Ramirez, Dagoberto Navarro-Pompa and Maria Teresa de la Rosa during the failed heist.
The six were quickly rounded up after the incident but court records show they had help from Jose Antonio "El Comandante" Armendariz and another suspect with blond spiky hair and a ponytail.
Those two men have not been arrested or charged in the case but a federal criminal complaint was formally filed against Gomez and the others last week.
Court records show that Gomez, Martinez, Navarro-Pompa and De la Rosa are from Mexico while Mejia and Ramirez are American citizens.
SAN BENITO - Maria De Los Angeles Magana, 40, is charged with possession of coc aine and child endangerment. Authorities say Magana was caring for three of her grandchildren when she was arrested.
Magana says she was just doing all she could to support and take care of her family.
Photos by police show what was inside her home; Santisima Muerte statues, a scale with coc aine residue and unsanitary living conditions. Authorities say Magana was living in the home with her family and several grandchildren.
Magana spoke to our cameras before seeing a judge. She says she'd only been involved with drugs for about two weeks, trying to get extra money to support her family, but police say that's not true. They'd been watching her since September and served a search warrant yesterday.
Neighbors say they've seen a lot of traffic at the home; people stopping and going and exchanging things.
Magana says she knows what she did was bad, but says she couldn't find a real job. But authorities say they aren't buying her story.
Magana is being held without bond tonight and will later be handed over to Border Patrol. We're told Child Protective Services is investigating.
ELKHORN - Deputies with the Walworth County Drug Enforcement Unit expected to find coc aine when they searched a Darien home in late August.
They found nearly a pound.
They expected to find cash.
They found $31,000.
What they didn't expect was the small altar for a skeletal Mexican saint. It was Santa Muerte, the patron saint of drug dealers, prostitutes and other criminals.
The saint, from the Spanish meaning "saint death," is popular in Mexico, where researchers say the cult claims more than 2 million followers and goes back about 3,000 years.
Police say they found the altar while executing a search warrant at 25 Market St. while investigating Roberto and Jorge Quinonez, a father and son authorities believe were moving large amounts of coc aine into the community.
Santa Muerte often is associated with drugs, brutality and other crimes. Their followers pray for protection from law enforcement and safety during drug deals. Santa Muerte is believed to be as powerful as the highest Catholic saints, but she doesn't discriminate.
Offerings often are marijuana or alcohol. Blowing smoke in the saint's face is believed to awaken her powers.
Santa Muerte has slowly crept into Mexican communities in the United States, often in bigger cities such as Los Angeles or Chicago. She has also started to make her way into Walworth County.
Deputy District Attorney Joshua Grube said knowing about the underground culture is one piece of the puzzle when it comes to investigation. He likened it to police learning about gang signs and colors.
"We learned about some little statues or bags or charms that some people believe that if you put them in a threshold, it'll keep the contents of that room safe from law enforcement," Grube said. "So if law enforcement sees that on the threshold of a room or door, maybe that's the room that the drugs are in. You think, 'What are they trying to protect?'"
The Quinonez duo was not alone.
Walworth County authorities November 3 arrested 11 people on drug charges, and Lake Geneva officers found Santa Muerte in some of their houses, Grube said.
It wasn't the first time Walworth County authorities found evidence of the saint in the homes of suspects, he said.
Grube and other Walworth County authorities attended a class on the topic taught by Robert Almonte, retired El Paso, Texas, deputy police chief.
Almonte's interest in the religious culture underlying the Mexican drug war comes from working as a narcotics detective in the 1980s.
"We noticed that there was an increase that they had these altars set up for protection from law enforcement," Almonte said.
Almonte started researching the topic. He made several trips to Mexico, trying to understand the culture behind patron saints of the crime world.
Despite the association with criminal behavior, he said, it's important to note that not all Santa Muerte followers are criminals.
While in Mexico, Almonte went to shrines and participated in processions where more than 6,000 people gathered to worship Santa Muerte, kneeling and crawling after her statue.
Stricken with poverty and struggling in life, most of the followers seemed to be seeking help from whatever source they could find, he said.
But some other Santa Muerte followers have gone to greatly brutal lengths to please their saint.
Almonte recalls a case in Tijuana, Mexico, a few years ago when a member of a small crime association owed about $7,000 to the organization leaders.
"When he finally confessed he spent the money, they cut his legs and arms off and offered it to Santa Muerte," he said.
The man's head was never found. One of the group's members insisted Santa Muerte had taken it, Almonte said.
Almonte now goes around the country teaching a class on patron saints of the underground Mexican drug war.
"It seems like once we heard about this happening, if you just look around, they really are doing this," Grube said. "They really are having these amulets and statues and jam bags."
Les contare dos experiencias con "LA SANTISIMA MUERTE", yo trabaje con ella durante algun tiempo, un dia vino una Sra. con un problema sobre su esposo, le recomende una Sta. Muerte de color blanca y las oraciones, pero yo siempre les hago las debidas aclaraciones sobre el uso de esta Santa..."Nadie debe de usarlas mas que tu, nadie debe tocarla mas que tu, hacerle sus oraciones siempre y cumplirle lo que le prometas"...para no hacerla larga, lo entendio y se comprometio hacer todo...todo iba bien, salio tal como esta Sra. deseaba, pero en una ocasion se le olvido hacerle su oracion un martes, cuando se acordo ya era tarde y se le hizo facil decir, "manana la hago"...esa noche no paso nada, y al dia siguiente no volvio a hacer la oracion...esa misma noche, oyo ruidos en la cocina...ella estaba sola con sus hijos, tuvo temor de que alguien se hubiese metido a la casa, se volvio a oir y se armo de valor y fue a revisar que pudiera ser...habia un enorme perro negro, ojos muy grande y rojos, solo le grunia como enojado...la Sra. salio corriendo toda asustada, tomo a sus dos ninos y se fue a casa de un vecino, esta le conto todo y le recomendaron que quitara la imagen y la tirara, porque eso era diabolico, esta tomo la imagen la metio en una caja y la puso en el garage, todo se puso peor, empezo a tener muchos problemas con su esposo, con la familia, perdio el trabajo, bueno, un dia regreso a mi casa a decirme todo, tuvimos que hacer mucha oracion pidiendo perdon a la Santita, le prendimos velas, pasaron mas de dos meses para que todo se le arreglara, creo firmamente que haberle faltado el respeto a la Santisima Muerte le provoco esto, ahora le tiene su altar, le pone flores, agua y le prende su vela cada martes y viernes. Le va muy bien y es muy feliz con su esposo y hijos.
Esta otro caso si esta muy fuerte...
Una Sra. tenia problemas con su esposo tambien, pero a esta le di una santisima muerte roja y las misma instrucciones, cuando se hace todo con fe, se logra rapido, pero...como a los tres meses, el Sr. la encontro haciendo el ritual de rezos, con las velas prendidas, en este caso siete velas tamano: "Jumbo" (9"x2") color negras, agua, y una rosa roja...El hombre se enojo y tiro el agua y la flor, pateo a la Santisima y le pego a la Sra. Para no hacer mas larga la historia, esto paso hace mas de medio año, hoy el Sr. se esta muriendo de un cancer en el pulmon izquierdo, (el no fuma) y le ha ido muy mal en el trabajo...
La SANTISIMA MUERTE, es una Santa muy buena, pero muy delicada, nadie debe de faltarle en ninguna forma.
3) ES UNA ENTIDAD CELOSA, NO PERMITE EL CULTO A OTROS SANTOS
ELLA ES UN ANGEL QUE NESESITA DE TU ATENCION Y CUIDADOS. NESESITA SU ESPACIO PERSONAL Y NO DEBES COLOCARLA EN EL ALTAR DE OTRA DEIDAD. DE AHI VIENE LA IMAGEN DE QUE ELLA ES MUY CELOSA.
ES LOGICO QUE ELLA TE PIDA AL MENOS ESO. SI ELLA TE VA A DAR TANTO, PUES DALE A CAMBIO ALGO.
ELLA TE PERMITE QUE LE RINDAS CULTO A QUIEN TU QUIERAS, ESTAS EN LIBERTAD. PERO CUANDO SEA LA HORA DE ELLA, ES SOLO ELLA!!!
POR LO QUE DEBES DARLE UN ESPACIO SOLO PARA SU ALTAR, SUS HORAS DE ATENCIO Y MUCHO AMOR Y CUIDADOS. ELLA TE REGRESARA 10 VECES LO QUE TU LE DES.
1) ELLA TE CONCEDE LA PETICION A CAMBIO DE LA VIDA DE UN FAMILIAR
ESTE ES EN SI EL MITO MAS EXTENDIDO. EMPECEMOS PORQUE ELLA POR SI SOLA, NO PUEDE TOMAR DESICIONES QUE SOLO AL PADRE EL PERTENECEN. ASI, SI ALGUIEN MUERE, NO ES POR DESICION DE ELLA, SINO DEL PADRE CELESTIAL.
ELLA PUES VIENE A SER UN SERVIDOR DEL PADRE, UN SIRVIENTE. POR LO TANTO NO PUEDE TOMAR UNA DESICION QUE NO LE PERTENECE, COMO EL CORTAR LOS HILOS DE UNA VIDA.
ELLA ACATA ORDENES, NO LAS TOMA.
EN LO QUE SI DEBES TENER CUIDADO, ES EN LO QUE LE PROMETAS, PUES SUELE OLVIDARSENOS DESPUES DE QUE TENEMOS EL FAVOR PEDIDO. ELLA TE EXIGIRA SU PAGO. ESO SI. PERO PARA QUE NO TENGAS UN COMPROMISO INCUMPLIBLE, NO OFRESCAS LO QUE NO PUEDES DAR. PIENSA ANTES DE ABRIR LA BOCA.
2) CULTO A LA SANTISIMA MUERTE, ES DIABOLICO.
MUCHO SE LA HA QUERIDO RELACIONAR CON ESTA FIGURA.
LO CUAL RESULTA ILOGICO. PUES MIENTRAS ELLA SIGNIFICA PAZ, TRANQUILIDAD, REPOSO, EL CULTO AL MALIGNO ESTA LLENO DE SEXO, VITALIDAD, PLACERES, DINERO, ARROGANCIA, PODER DESMEDIDO, GULA. EN DONDE ESTA PUES LA RELACION? SI EMPEZAMOS A DEMENUZAR A AMBAS FIGURAS NOS DAREMOS CUENTA QUE NO EMPARENTAN EN NINGUNA FORMA.
ESTO ES UNA DISTORTION DE LA REALIDAD.
Vamos a empezar quien es nuestra Santisima Muerte; aquella imagen que se tiene de la Santisima Muerte, siniestra, dolorosa, cruel y fria.
Pues no es asi, a evolucionado como nuestra misma mentalidad hasta descubrir que la Santisima Muerte tiene el proposito de prepararnos para que el ultimo momento de nuestra existencia terrenal llegue a un nivel an el que nuestra conciencia, pensamiento y presentimiento se encuentren en paz para trascender a la region de sus dominios y luego a otra de superior caracter supremo.
Se dice que cuando la Santisima Muerte concede un favor se cobra con alguno de nuestros familiares, esto es totalmente falso ya que ella no trabaja asi, ella viene para ayudarnos y no para castigar a sus devotos.