Absolute Proof! No Planes on 911 !!! (Jim Fetzer Interviews John Lear - 7-27-09), page 3

reply to post by videoworldwide

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Oh, well....if you insist, I will provide a detailed refutation, based on MY depth of experience in aviation.

EDIT: NOT in this post, of course. Will take some time. BUT, since I have so much of it.....(end edit)

I respect Capt. Lear, and acknowledge his accomplishments. Dozens of type ratings ( I have four....they are EXPENSIVE!!! ).

He is in the Record Books, for various reasons. He had opportunities that I did not. Perhaps, his "drive" was different than mine. I was focused on just getting a job with a Major Airline, and having a career, wasn't focused on any sort of noteriety. BUT, that's just me. Capt. Lear, that is him. HE had the different drive, the different desires, the different opportunities.

At my airline, I knew a guy ( retired some years ago ) who had TWICE as many type ratings as Capt. Lear. Again, his personal choice, his "hobby", if you will.

BUT, notwithstanding numbers of type ratings, and other life experiences, it boils down to other factors, such as hours and years of experience, in flying.

ON THAT POINT, by that yardstick, I am at least Capt. Lear's level. I stopped counting at 20,000 hours. I flew large passenger jets, same airline, for 23 years. Before that, other passenger operations in smaller equipment, various companies. Before that, I taought people how to fly, in various disciplines, all the way from "Basic" to "Advanced" (I could elaborate, but I simplified it...)

I cannot say why Capt. Lear professes these opinions, he claims to have "inside knowledge" of a sort that I am certainly not privvy to.

HOWEVER, there is so much other preponderence of evidence to make his claims, at least, questionable.

When Capt. Lear was contributing here, much more frequently at ATS, he had a phrase in is "signature" that seemed to me to be a little toungue-in-cheek, almost as if most of what he wrote or advocated was just in fun....

Pilots, in general, have wicked senses of humour!!!! We can be quite clever, at times too.



[edit on 11 August 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by videoworldwide
This is why Fetzer split from Jones, because he felt Jones was not looking at all the possibilities,

Actually, Jones split from Fetzer because real scientists don't believe in disinfo fairy tale exotic weapons or no planes at the WTC. Neither do Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, 9/11 Blogger, Loose Change, 9/11 Research .com, 9/11 Truth .org. The list goes on. There are thousands of people in these organizations with many degrees after their names and none of them support NPT.

Matter of fact, let me count how many people came to support NPT in this thread..........................that would be a big zero! Nobody especially will take John Lear's word for anything. You'd think with his qualifications and resume, he'd be a credible person, but he's not. He's likely got some kind of dementia at his age to make him say the outrageous and ridiculously incorrect things he says.

Too bad he doesn't post here anymore because I'd debate him in the debate forum and easily win.

Originally posted by videoworldwide
The videos you watched were 100% CGI, non real, animations.

Several of us already killed your CGI "theory" in your other thread. You'd think you'd know that it's disinfo to keep saying something that has already to be found false.

Originally posted by videoworldwide
What your friend saw was likely either a hologram or a missile,

First you come here and make a thread about holograms being used to project planes. We debunked that. Then you made a post saying holograms aren't part of your theory and that you're not a believer in holograms, even though you posted a thread to the contrary. Now you're again saying holograms. You are the epitome of contradictions.

We already debunked your hologram thread and your CGI "theory". Missiles aren't anywhere near as big as a large jetliner, nor do they fly as slow as a jetliner. Guess what? That leaves you with planes only.

Not to mention, you present zero evidence that even suggests that his friend saw a "hologram or missile". You can't just say things and expect people to believe them as fact. Provide real tangible evidence, or everything you say = disinfo with no proof.

Originally posted by videoworldwide
what is proven is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a plane to have hit the towers on that day.

Just like it was impossible for a B-25 bomber to hit the Empire State building in 1945:



Show everyone where you posted this proof because I think we're all having a hard time finding it.

Originally posted by videoworldwide
I agree that it may have been a missile

We've already talked about this several times. Missiles do not have 160-foot wingspans nor do they fly as slow as planes.

Originally posted by videoworldwide
the idea that a plane could have flown into the building is very well refuted by John

Someone's words or opinions isn't refutation or proof of anything. You have a real problem with the definition of "proof". Go look it up. Nowhere in the definition of "proof" will it say anything about someone's opinions being proof of anything.

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I didn't bother to read what you posted, since you never bothered to watch the videos.

Originally posted by videoworldwide

Originally posted by Mark_Amy
reply to post by videoworldwide

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I don't think you have to worry about debunkers in this thread cos even the truthers don't believe it!

That's cause 99% of the truthers are actually children who don't do research for themselves. Like yourself.

This type of response really bugs me...I ain't no child, but given the chance I would love to be a kid again....LOL

With out doing any research how would anyone come to the conclusion that 911 wasn't as it seemed?
You and your efforts are a total distraction and weather you are doing this on purpose or just out of plain stupidity, I dont know.
Yoou and your kind dont help in anyway with crackpot ideas, my suggestion is to stick to investigating elvis....because to a non-believer you are the tinfoil hat wearing elvis is alive freak that make a mockery of any real evidence.

I saw a plane hit...in real time, dont tell me I am lying!

You blindly seem to believe this crackpot yet tell me how much research does one do to find this CGI theroy the gospel?
How many years and hours have you spent...

reply to post by videoworldwide

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So, now it is up to you to explain how the images of the jets ended up on the literally hundreds of cameras that captured them...the Naudet brothers, the cameras on top of the news buildings pointed at the Towers, the cameras on the helicopters orbiting the towers after the first strike, the still and video cameras of the people around the area....holograms just dont cut it.

reply to post by Agree2Disagree

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most people would consider that 911 & real planes is more tangible because there is real proof(buildings, planes, noise, vision etc).....more so than a blurry blob at night on a grainy picture. Or a photo shoped picture with a frying pan on fishing wire...
If a UFO landed in central park then wham people would believe in ufo straight away!

I am not saying UFO don't exists but to relate one to the other is ridiculous...I have lived in hunted house seen 'ghosts' or 'paranormal activity', but people still think that the spirit realm is not real...







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[edit on 12/8/2009 by Sauron]

reply to post by videoworldwide

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So what you are saying is; a male doctor, a male nutritionist, a male xray tech, can tell a pregnant woman nothing? Well I have to agree, that she would not allow him to try. But he knows a heck of a lot more about her pregnancy than her~

I don't know if anybody even cares, but I found an old post by John Lear that goes into detail ( with annotated photos ) about some of the things he is talking about in this interview ...

I have no exposure to any of these 911 hologram theories, but I do know some of the people involved with that court case are very highly credentialed ...

I take it the general 'expert consensus' here at ATS is that the hologram theorists are just fancy disinformationists ?

Don't bother answering ... from the disrepectful and insulting demeanor of most of the posts here I already know the answer ...

reply to post by videoworldwide

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If you havent figured it out yet, John Lear is the greatest practical joker of all time. I mean why else would someone say their were no planes or that the moon stored human souls, and have you ever looked at his website theLivingMoon.com, that whole thing is hilarious.

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You're a very funny practical joker yourself. Lear does not say that about the moon, as far as I know.




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[edit on 12/8/2009 by Sauron]

reply to post by videoworldwide

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Here you go in John's very own words. Start at about 5:15 in this video. He talks about how they dont give you a soul until you are at least a few days old in case you drop off before then.



[edit on 11-8-2009 by HotDogNoBun]

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I have to honestly say, after watching and listening to that video, I will need to go into the kitchen and wrap myself in tinfoil. I will complete my new outfit with foil covered shoes (who knows when they will want to harvest feet) AND then protect my brain with a modified foil hat. I will then have to some how swallow foil to protect my soul which lies deep inside my innards. I will then have to cocoon my home in a foil shell and ask pointed questions of my employer, police dept. and political representatives. Hey, my mother my have been a...? I have to go, I think the ADA (Alien Detection Agency) may be knocking...or else it could be???? argh

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