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Originally posted by The time lord
In Matthew 12 Jesus says he over rides the old law of the Sabbath, does that mean he is speaking about him self or the rest of mankind to do so?
Is the message saying that because Jesus is the new covenant he is able to overcome this old Law I think it does say that? By doing so does it now mean the gentiles and Jews too do not have practice the Sabbath of the Old Testament and the message is to help people what ever day it may be as that is priority?
Maybe working on a Saturday is not bad after all or a Sunday either, so maybe that is why the West and Europe and England have for so many years.
Matthew 12
Lord of the Sabbath
1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, "Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath."
3He answered, "Haven't you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5Or haven't you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? 6I tell you that one[a] greater than the temple is here. 7If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. 8For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."
9Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, 10and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, they asked him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"
11He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."
13Then he said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. 14But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.
. Because Jesus fulfilled the Law in His life and His death, all Old Testament laws have to be interpreted through His fulfillment. Sacrifices and ritual and holy days--all change with Christ. So believers today are not bound to keep the Sabbath Day because we have a New Covenant. The Sabbath for us is interpreted through the Christ event--when we believe in Jesus, we enter into the rest He promised (Matt. 11:28), which is the eternal Sabbath. Every day is to be sanctified to the Lord as a day of spiritual rest; the whole life is a Sabbath fulfillment. And in the age to come there will be a restoration of the whole Sabbath with the removal of the curse. Paul teaches that the Christian is not to observe holy days in a legalistic way. They are helpful for instruction and meditation, but not legally binding. But the Christian is to live out the spirit of the Law, what those regulations were intended to convey. And so a sanctified life given to the Lord and lived out in salvation’s rest from anxious toil and spiritual works is what should characterize the believer who has entered into the Sabbath rest (see Hebrews 3, 4). A simplistic and legalistic observance of a “Christian Sabbath” is not the way to sanctification.
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Originally posted by The time lord
More like he changed the meaning of the Sabbath suppose, I also see that healing people on the Sabbath is within the law and people then thought all kinds of work was forbidden. Jesus does not need to rest on the Sabbath since he is the creator of it all and is not bound to it, so he is showing his authority as to who is was also. I guess the Jews still have to abide by those rules as given to them, but is it for the Jews or is it for the gentiles too? Or since the Jews don't believe in Christ anyway they just keep the traditions.
I have this quote anyway to which I am in the middle of understanding this since there is argument on both sides. This quote says as I suspected in my previous post so I am not the only one to think along those lines on an individual level about the change of the sabbath.
. Because Jesus fulfilled the Law in His life and His death, all Old Testament laws have to be interpreted through His fulfillment. Sacrifices and ritual and holy days--all change with Christ. So believers today are not bound to keep the Sabbath Day because we have a New Covenant. The Sabbath for us is interpreted through the Christ event--when we believe in Jesus, we enter into the rest He promised (Matt. 11:28), which is the eternal Sabbath. Every day is to be sanctified to the Lord as a day of spiritual rest; the whole life is a Sabbath fulfillment. And in the age to come there will be a restoration of the whole Sabbath with the removal of the curse. Paul teaches that the Christian is not to observe holy days in a legalistic way. They are helpful for instruction and meditation, but not legally binding. But the Christian is to live out the spirit of the Law, what those regulations were intended to convey. And so a sanctified life given to the Lord and lived out in salvation’s rest from anxious toil and spiritual works is what should characterize the believer who has entered into the Sabbath rest (see Hebrews 3, 4). A simplistic and legalistic observance of a “Christian Sabbath” is not the way to sanctification.
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What Does the Bible Say About the Old Testament Law?
The Law of Moses regulated almost every aspect of life in Old Testament times. But with the coming of Christ, God established a new covenant of faith and love with mankind. Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc. However, the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament.
The Law of Moses
In Biblical times, the Law of Moses (also called Old Testament Law, Mosaic Law, or just The Law) regulated almost every aspect of Jewish life. The Ten Commandments and many other laws defined matters of morals, religious practice and government. It regulated the army, criminal justice, commerce, property rights, slavery, sexual relations, marriage and social interactions. It required circumcision for males, blood sacrifices, and Sabbath observance. It provided for the welfare of widows, orphans, the poor, foreigners and domestic animals. Ceremonial rules divided animals into "clean" and "unclean" categories. Clean animals could be eaten; unclean animals could not.
Teachings of Jesus
By the time of Jesus, the great moral principles God had given to Moses in the Ten Commandments had been turned into hundreds of ceremonial rules. People thought they were living holy lives if they just obeyed all those rules. But many people found enough "loopholes" to obey all the rules and still live wicked and greedy lives (Matthew 23:23-28).
Jesus said that was not at all what God had intended. Jesus did not abolish the moral and ethical laws that had been in effect from the time of Moses (Matthew 5:17-18, Luke 16:16-17). He affirmed and expanded upon those principles, but He said obedience must be from the heart (attitudes and intentions) rather than just technical observance of the letter of the law (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-44, etc.).
Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict Jewish rules against doing any work on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-14, Mark 2:23-28, 3:1-6, Luke 6:1-11, 13:10-17, 14:1-6, John 5:1-18).
In contrast to the "clean" and "unclean rules," Jesus said no food can defile a person. It is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy (Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23).
Council of Jerusalem
The first Christians came from among the Jews, and they continued to observe the Law of Moses as well as their new Christian faith. But as more and more Gentiles (non-Jews) converted to Christianity, there were disputes about whether or not these Gentile Christians must observe the Law. Issues of circumcision and diet were especially troublesome.
In about the year 49 A.D., Peter, Paul, Barnabas, James and other Christian leaders met in Jerusalem to settle the issue (Acts 15:1-29). It was agreed that no conditions should be imposed on the Gentile converts except faith in Christ. However, the council recommended that Gentile Christians abstain from certain things that were particularly offensive to their Jewish brethren - food sacrificed to idols, blood, meat of strangled animals and sexual immorality (Acts 15:29).
The New Covenant
With the coming of Christ, God has established a new covenant with mankind (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:25, Hebrews 8:8-13, 9:11-15) that supersedes the Old Testament Law.
Jesus and His apostles gave us a radically new understanding of the true intent of the Old Testament Law; they brought a new era of the rule of love for all people and spiritual truth instead of rule by law (Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35, Ephesians 2:14-18).
Conclusion
The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.
Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).
However, freedom from the Old Testament Law is not a license for Christians to relax their moral standards. The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-48, 7:1-5, 15:18-19, 25:37-40, Mark 7:21-23, 12:28-31, Luke 12:15, 1 Corinthians 13:1-13, Galatians 5:19-21, James 1:27, 2:15-16, 1 John 3:17-19).
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Books 1-5: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.
These books were written about 3400 years ago by Moses. These five books are sometimes called the Pentateuch or the Torah.
Books 6-16: Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, 1 Kings, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah.
These books, among other things, explain the history of Israel from the time that the nation was established about 3400 years ago. It includes information about the time when the nation was conquered by the Assyrians about 2700 years ago, and when it was conquered by the Babylonians about 2600 years ago. The Assyrians and Babylonians forced many of the Israelites out of their homeland. But, some returned during the next few centuries, shortly before the time of Jesus.
Books 17-22: Ester, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon.
These books are sometimes called the books of Writings, or the books of Poetry, or the books of Wisdom.
Books 23-27: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Daniel.
These books contain prophecies that were delivered by prophets, such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel. These prophets lived about 2700 to 2500 years ago. Some of their prophecies were fulfilled during ancient times and many others were fulfilled by Jesus Christ about 2000 years ago.
Books 28-39: Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi.
These books are sometimes called the books of the "minor" prophets. They are called "minor" because their books are short in length.
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Genesis. Describes the creation; gives the history of the old world, and of the steps taken by God toward the formation of theocracy.
Exodus. The history of Israel's departure from Egypt; the giving of the law; the tabernacle.
Leviticus. The ceremonial law.
Numbers. The census of the people; the story of the wanderings in the wilderness.
Deuteronomy. The law rehearsed; the death of Moses.
Joshua. The story of the conquest and partition of Canaan.
Judges. The history of the nation from Joshua to Samson.
Ruth. The story of the ancestors of the royal family of Judah
1 Samuel. The story of the nation during the judgeship of Samuel and the reign of Saul.
2 Samuel. Story of the reign of David.
1 and 2 Kings. The books of Kings form only one book in the Hebrew MSS. They contain the history of the nation from David's death and Solomon's accession to the destruction of the kingdom of Judah and the desolation of Jerusalem, with a supplemental notice of the liberation of Jehoiachin from his prison at Babylon, twenty-six years later; they comprehend the whole time of the Israelitish monarchy, exclusive of the reigns of Saul and David.
The Books of Chronicles are so called as being the record made by the appointed historiographers of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel; they are the official histories of those kingdoms.
Ezra. The story of the return of the Jews from the Babylonish captivity, and of the rebuilding of the temple.
Nehemiah. A further account of the rebuilding of the temple and city, and of the obstacles encountered and overcome.
Esther. The story of a Jewess who becomes queen of Persia and saves the Jewish people from destruction.
Job. The story of the trials and patience of a holy man of Edom.
Psalms. A collection of sacred poems intended for use in the worship of Jehovah. Chiefly the productions of David.
Proverbs. The wise sayings of Solomon.
A poem respecting the vanity of earthly things.
Solomon's Song. An allegory relating to the church.
Isaiah. Prophecies respecting Christ and his kingdom.
Jeremiah. Prophecies announcing the captivity of Judah, its sufferings, and the final overthrow of its enemies.
Lamentations. The utterance of Jeremiah's sorrow upon the capture of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple.
Ezekiel. Messages of warning and comfort to the Jews in their captivity.
Daniel. A narrative of some of the occurrences of the captivity, and a series of prophecies concerning Christ.
Hosea. Prophecies relating to Christ and the latter days.
Joel. Prediction of woes upon Judah, and of the favor with which God will receive the penitent people.
Amos. Prediction that Israel and other neighboring nations will be punished by conquerors from the north, and of the fulfillment of the Messiah's kingdom.
Obadiah. Prediction of the desolation of Edom.
Jonah. Prophecies relating to Nineveh.
Micah. Predictions relating to the invasions of Shalmaneser and Sennacherib, the Babylonish captivity, the establishment of a theocratic kingdom in Jerusalem, and the birth of the Messiah in Bethlehem.
Nahum. Prediction of the downfall of Assyria.
Habakkuk. A prediction of the doom of the Chaldeans.
Zephaniah. A prediction of the overthrow of Judah for its idolatry and wickedness.
Haggai. Prophecies concerning the rebuilding of the temple.
Zechariah. Prophecies relating to the rebuilding of the temple and the Messiah.
Malachi. Prophecies relating to the calling of the Gentiles and the coming of Christ.
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Gospel of St. Matthew. A brief history of the life of Christ.
Gospel of St. Mark. A brief history of the life of Christ, supplying some incidents omitted by St. Matthew.
Gospel of St. Luke. The history of the life of Christ, with especial reference to his most important acts and discourses.
Gospel of St. John. The life of Christ, giving important discourses not related by the other evangelists.
Acts of the Apostles. The history of the labors of the apostles and of the foundation of the Christian Church.
Epistle to the Romans. A treatise by St. Paul on the doctrine of justification by Christ.
First Epistle to the Corinthians. A letter from St. Paul to the Corinthians, correcting errors into which they had fallen.
Second Epistle to the Corinthians. St. Paul confirms his disciples in their faith, and vindicates his own character.
Epistle to the Galatians. St. Paul maintains that we are justified by faith, and not by rites.
Epistle to the Ephesians. A treatise by St. Paul on the power of divine grace.
Epistle to the Philippians. St. Paul sets forth the beauty of Christian kindness.
Epistle to the Colossians. St. Paul warns his disciples against errors, and exhorts to certain duties.
First Epistle to the Thessalonians. St. Paul exhorts his disciples to continue in the faith and in holy conversation.
Second Epistle to the Thessalonians. St. Paul corrects an error concerning the speedy coming of Christ the second time.
First and Second Epistles to Timothy. St. Paul instructs Timothy in the duty of a pastor, and encourages him in the work of the ministry.
Epistle to Titus. St. Paul encourages Titus in the performance of his ministerial duties.
Epistle to Philemon. An appeal to a converted master to receive a converted escaped slave with kindness.
Epistle to Hebrews. St. Paul maintains that Christ is the substance of the ceremonial law.
Epistle of James. A treatise on the efficacy of faith united with good works.
First and Second Epistles of Peter. Exhortations to a Christian life, with various warnings and predictions.
First Epistle of St. John. Respecting the person of our Lord, and an exhortation to Christian love and conduct.
Second Epistle of St. John. St. John warns a converted lady against false teachers.
Third Epistle of St. John. A letter to Gaius, praising him for his hospitality.
Epistle of St. Jude. Warnings against deceivers.
The Revelation. The future of the Church foretold.
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