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Originally posted by tezzajw
This event is BS.
The MSM reaction has been over-the-top! Clearly, the MSM has been pushing an agenda with their reporting. The incident has dominated all news services in Melbourne...
The obvious fear-mongering and blatant hype and propaganda makes me sick.
Even some 'hicks' living in 'hicksville' (Colac) were interviewed, expressing their shock that they might be living amongst 'terrorists'.
On a slightly related note... did anyone notice the front page of the Melbourne Herald-Sun yesterday? (It's the main Melbourne daily newspaper). The headline article was an emotional charge to deport a Turkish national who had been released from jail, after spending 10 years in there for murder.
There's an obvious campaign to promote fear and be wary of Middle-Eastern terrorists. I'm waiting for the Aussie False Flag event to occur. I just hope that I'm not caught up in it.
Originally posted by blueorder
I would say a possible assault on an army base is quite high profile news ffs
Originally posted by blueorder
that is the height of arrogance- how is someone in Colac automatically a "hick"
Originally posted by blueorder
you probably think of yourself as an indepedent thinker but you are automatically linking things just by their very existence without even looking at them rationally.
Until the assault happens - BIG DEAL!
I never understood charges of 'conspiracy to do X'. Essentially, it's catching people for thought crimes.
Let them plan whatever they like. Monitor them and watch them if you have to but until they do something, they haven't done anything!
Originally posted by tezzajw
Until the assault happens - BIG DEAL!
I never understood charges of 'conspiracy to do X'. Essentially, it's catching people for thought crimes.
Let them plan whatever they like. Monitor them and watch them if you have to but until they do something, they haven't done anything!
You don't know what I think, so don't bother putting your own incorrect spin on it.
Originally posted by blueorder
A conspiracy to murder is "BIG DEAL"- very good- it is nothing to do with thought crimes, people may think someone should be murdered but if they start putting plans in place, procedures, methods and equipment then that is a "BIG DEAL"
well they have, they are conspiring to murder, pretty serious Iwould think
Originally posted by blueorder
I don't need to spin it, you have set your stall out
Originally posted by tezzajw
I bet that every day there are people who put plans into place for many different crimes.
Some people carry those crimes through. While others would take a rethink and back out.
Until the person acts on their plans, then all they have done is to plan a crime. Arresting people on suspicion of what they might do is a very dangerous precedent.
I don't know the finer details of these alleged 'terrorists' plans. However, if it was known early on that they were 'planning' to do something, then why weren't they visited by police? A few knocks on their doors and some police presence could have made them think twice about advancing their plans.
That's a BS crime. Until they've murdered, they haven't.
Yeah, you do need to spin it, or you wouldn't have used the word 'probably'. You're making an incorrect guess about what I think.
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by blueorder
I would say a possible assault on an army base is quite high profile news ffs
Until the assault happens - BIG DEAL!
I never understood charges of 'conspiracy to do X'. Essentially, it's catching people for thought crimes.
Let them plan whatever they like. Monitor them and watch them if you have to but until they do something, they haven't done anything!
Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
You mean let them plan everything right up till they actually perpetrate a crime, and only THEN step in?
Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
So if I see someone sneaking about your house outside, I should wait till they stab you before I yell out "Uhh dude, someones in your yard with a knife!" ?
Originally posted by C0bzz
Simply put - you're damn right it is a crime to plan to kill people. [edit on 4/8/2009 by C0bzz]
Originally posted by tezzajw
So far, they have been arrested for talking on the phone and sending some text messages. A bit of hate speech on the phone and it takes over 400 police to raid them?
Overkill - anyone?
This is a propaganda show, plain and simple. Keep the people fearful, keep the people wanting to feel secure. As long as the people are looking out against each other, then the government will be in control.
The raids were designed for media and public consumption and dispersion to the masses.
A subtle word or two in the ears of a couple of those blokes would have stopped their plans without any fuss at all - seven months ago.
Read that again - the MSM is trying to compare this with 9/11, using the term ground zero!!! If you suck up and believe this MSM crap, then you really don't know when you're being taken for fools.
Originally posted by acruxDoes that include Australia's participation in the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan. That makes our military & politicians murders.
Originally posted by blueorder
although I am not blind to the terror which many of these islamic nutters wish to inflict, my abiding wish is that Tony Blair (not Australian I know) stands trial some day
Originally posted by tezzajw
A subtle word or two in the ears of a couple of those blokes would have stopped their plans without any fuss at all - seven months ago.