The supposed Kenyan short form birth certificate is a fake. Now if other ATSers can post multiple threads here on this supposed "smoking gun" surely
the mods can allow me to post thread on why this birth certificate is a fake. All I ask is that I be allowed to voice out my opinion, to give out the
findings that lead to the conclusion of the document being a fake. Thats all I request.
Im sure many here think this is some how "the smoking gun" to take Obama away from the presidency and nothing else will change their minds. Thats
fine, if thats the way you choose to live your life, by your own personal satisfaction, its your choice. I am sure however that there are ATSers out
there who just want the truth, clear cut, regardless of whether it will make them happy or not, from both sides. For that sake I will be giving the my
evidence against the supposed Kenyan birth certificate.
First of all, under Kenya law CAP 149-8 a registrar cannot register a birth or death more than 6 months after that event.
A registrar shall not register a birth or death after the expiration of six months from the date of such birth or death, except upon
receiving the written authority of the Principal Registrar issued in accordance with the rules, and upon payment of the prescribed fee.
According to this supposed Kenyan short form birth certificate the registrar signed on the 17 of February 1964 when Obama was 3 years old.
Secondly, the fact of the matter was that even during the time the kenyan government was in transition from a form colony to a republic, the vast
majority of documents did not have the official republic seal of Kenya until after 1964 and this includes short form birth certificate. Kenya only
issued the Republic seals on December 12th 1964, before then none of the official short form birth certificates had them:
So, back to Kenya. The former protectorate first issued its own postage stamps on December 12, 1963, coinciding with its date of independence
from the U.K. These stamps said “Kenya” on them. On December 12, 1964, Kenya issued some new stamps. According to the 1996 Scott Standard
Postage Stamp Catalogue, Volume 1B, this 12/12/1964 series (5 stamps) was specifically produced to commemorate the “establishment of the Republic of
Kenya” on that same date. These stamps in this 12/12/1964 series said “Republic of Kenya” on them, and they were the first (and last to my
knowledge) Kenya stamp issues which specifically used the full “Republic of Kenya” name (subsequent issues just say “Kenya”), and it makes
logical sense that they would say that, given the stated purpose of the stamp issue.
Now some other interesting flags about the fake:
1. In was dated Feb 14, 1964 and had the designation Republic of Kenya. However that designation was not official
until December 1964.
2. It’s number 44 O 47 is a bit coincidental with 44th President Obama 47th President
3. The name EF Lavender. Earth Friendly Lavender is a detergent
4. Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. It used to be part of Zanzibar
5. The Coast General Hospital is actually called the Coast Provincial General Hospital
6. There are unconfirmed statements that women who would give birth in 1961 would go to the “Lady Grigg Maternity Hospital” which was later rolled
into the Coast Provincial General hospital.
Obama's father (born in 1936) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.
The place was called the “Central Nyanza District,” not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.
Orly (the one that starts the majority of these accusations, with her sidekick keys) is no stranger to releasing fake documents and bluffing her way
into the court system. Apart from her bluff over the social sercurity accusation she apparentl has other birth certificates to show for the lawsuit,
one of them below:
The above birth certificate, another of Orly's, has this written on it:
KERHIET GOED DUT DIT ZALNUT VERANDIRES DIT IST GEEN GELDIG DOCUMENT VAN DE OVELHEID. DIT IS POLITIEKI COMMINTAAR HU IS VOURZITTER VOOR MINSTEN DREI EN
EEN HALT VAN,
It translates "this is not a valid document of the government. This is a political comment. HU is president for atleast 3 and a half years."
Now this fact should have already been an indicated that she was carrying fake documents with her. Ofcourse, some folks are wanting to believe
Now obviously some may be asking whats the difference then between his Hawaiian short form birth certificate and this new "smoking" Kenyan short
Obamas Hawaii short form birth certificate was verified by the Hawaiian state government:
To verify we did indeed have the correct document, we contacted the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records.
"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo said June 13, 2008.
The supposed "Kenyan short form" was not verified by any officials or experts in Kenyan birth certifications.
Fukino yesterday issued a statement saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics personally inspected Obama's birth certificate and
found it to be valid.
The Hawaiian short form was declared fake on the grounds of afew rightwing bloggers. Not the experts to counter the verification from state officials.
The Kenya birth certificate wasnt verified by anybody.
And then ofcourse there will be the "questioners" who will come our and say "if had just released his long form none of this fuss would be
A) His finished his campaign, his proven sufficiently his eligibility vai the law and he is not obligated to prove anything further. The majority
spoke on November 4th. The president isnt constitutionally obligated to satisfy every single individual in americam thats impossible.
....and B) proving anything will not end the conspiracies being spread about him so get real. In anycase his still not obligated to answer to you and
your "concerned citizens mob".
Im sure there will be more to come, more revelations of the fake. However people should learn to watch what they readily believe, however you may
dislike the current president. I dont like Ron Paul, I dont like Sarah Palin, but I am not going to readily believe some rumor, some accusation with
no basis at all for the sake of my own personal hatred. We may be on different ideological standing points, but at the end are we not all here to deny
[edit on 3-8-2009 by Southern Guardian]