The faked Kenyan birth certificate

The birth certificate issue is the wrong battle for the Obama opposition to fight. The more logical avenue to pursue would be to pressure him to release his college transcripts and professional records. If i want to apply for a job i have to include my college transcripts... I don't understand why he gets a pass for the highest employment position in the world.

Being that he won't release those records it is safe to assume that they are less than stellar. Most people i know with great transcripts are falling over themselves to show it to you. It doesn't make sense why he won't release them unless his academics weren't very good (he did serve as professor at a major university and never once published a paper). Then it would appear as if he isn't all he is cracked up to be and is in fact a cult of personality created by the powers that be.

just a thought...

reply to post by HunkaHunka

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Fox does have a point. As a matter of fact many on ATS including myself have said the same thing.

Hold a news conferance, take the original BC with him and present it to the public and this will all go away, except of course for a very small radical few who need their conspiracies.

I wouldn't necessarly say its like blaming a woman for being raped. It's more like a woman saying she was raped and refusing to show any evidence except for a picture of a man just standing there smiling for the camera.

reply to post by Hazelnut

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I think people are jumping the gun on this issue, let the courts decide.

We don't know either way.

People are invested in their theories. You are right. We don't know and the courts are the ones to make the determination. I have a suspicion that this motion will be denied. I hope it isn't, especially since Clinton is on her way to Kenya tomorrow!

Starred and flagged.

I don't really agree with your views Southern Guardian, but I have to give you credit for the research you've done. Glad to see someone working diligently on that side to keep us in check when we start believing anything we hear that we agree with.

All Obama has to do is reveal his BC. Copies of his manifestos written in college would be nice to read also.

The blame for this mess certainly falls on Obama.

Ha! Trying to provide a veneer of impartiality are we?

I think your avatar gives it away a tad.

It is people such as yourself who are trying to hurt the country by desperately grasping at a myth that is long dead and never had any validity to start with.


Obama is the constutionally legitimate leader of the US, and there's nothing that the deluded little niche of racists and religious nuts can do about it.

Have some cheese with your whine and move on.


S&Fd

[edit on 3-8-2009 by mckyle]

Something smells like a bucket of rotten fish here. The 'official' (or as near as I can find out) COLB is as fake as fake can be, on virtue that is simply is NOT from the 60's- it's a digital creation. Now, this one is also said to be 'fake'.

Let's step away from the 'Where was Obama born' issue a few steps and look at this whole thing. You have someone or someones putting these documents online. Look at the results. You have the legislators and the govt paid warm bodies in DC doing some odd business, putting out a resolution concerning this. And you have people divided over the whole mess, when it's getting to be pretty obvious we need to NOT be, and looking somewhere else.

I think the Magician (aka the PTB) Is doing sleight of hand for something sneaky, and keeping as many people as they can chasing their tails and screaming at each other as best as possible. Same goes for 911 and anything else 'big' and confusing, where there's more than 2 sides to the story, and the Govt's neck deep in it. What's needed is a little multitasking: *THIS* (insert random thing here) is happening... there's this story, the 'official' story, and now there's all sorts of hoaxes popping up inbetween ruining both sides of the story. What's going on in secret? Why is *THIS* happening? What small, not MSM worthy little items are being leaked from under the door of the govt outhouse?

Everyone needs to quit screaming with their eyes closed at the opposing camp, compromise, and work together to FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. Before we're all screwed!

reply to post by TheAmused

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Exactly, pretty bold to label the other topic a hoax being at this point, we don't know either way.

Exactly,



www.newsmax.com...

As it stands, Obama is the only president in history whose birthplace is unknown to the public –

[edit on 113131p://bMonday2009 by Stormdancer777]

I looked at that initial thread, downloaded the picture, and simply looked at it zoomed in
the text fields are all perfectly box pixelated to show manipulation...aka, its a poorly done photoshop.

seriously...I mean, good job on posting all those facts and such, but all you had to do is simply say: Zoom in!

its clear even to a completely oblivious to anything photoshopped person that what your seeing is a fraud...it was almost laughably done, which makes me believe the "smoking gun" was put out by someone making fun of the birthers movement with such a horrible photoshop...sorta point out the people whom think its authentic easier to who is a incredibly gullible type

much like a photo of a trashcan lid on a piece of string...with the string visible on the picture and saying...yep, thats a UFO. Would take a special kind of person to believe that. heh

Yeah, they're about as credible as National Enquirer or the Daily Mail.

The only reason WND continues to pull out these 'gems' is to draw in gullible readers to generate ad revenue. Take a look at their site some time. It's basically a joke, and the joke's on you.

Indeed! He's obviously putting a gun to people's heads and making them post adnauseum about a fiction.

I can't believe the mentality of some people!

SG did not do the research, as was previously stated, this is basically a cut-and-paste of xyzer's comment from the other thread.

[edit on 3-8-2009 by hotrodturbo7]

Step 1) Search google "Hawaii Birth Certificate"

Step 2) click on images to see results

Step 3) cry when you realize all hawaii birth certificates say cert of live birth

Step 4) Go back to saying he is a sleeper cell muslim terrorist...or the antichrist..or hitler reincarnated...etc.

The birther movement is nonsense, the people whom buy it are nonsense, and that Orly woman stated simply that she wants Obama out because he is a liberal and will do anything she can to hamper and debase not only him, but any and all dems. She even knows its nonsense, but she is hopeing enough *idiots* bark for her fantasy enough to cause a problem.

go lay down!

reply to post by Stormdancer777

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Folks, Obama already revealed his BC. If you don't believe it, that's your own personal problem.

Nothing is going to stop you from believing that Obama is some horrid monster and worthy of nothing but spite and hate. But when it's already been confirmed that a person is born in the US. It makes ya kinda look a little nutty to deny it.

But OBAMA didn't cause this. He didn't start the birthers movement. Provided exactly the same documents that every candidate must present.

Therefore, even though you feel he could stop the movement, he's hardly to BLAME for the movement.

I have issue with that statement

it doesnt make them look a little nutty, it makes them look tin foil hat wearing raving lunatic elves are in my eyeballs bonkers.

What logical conclusion does one come to when a candidate for president campaigns for the office on the foundation of transparency and accountibility yet seals his historical, official records? For what purpose are those records sealed? There must be a very good reason. What is it?

www.unhcr.org...

This might help shed some light on the Republic of Kenya debate

Publication Date 12 December 1963

FIRST SCHEDULE
OATH OF ALLEGIANCE
I....................................do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the Republic ofKenya and that I will support and uphold the Constitution of Kenya as by law established.

SO HELP ME GOD