Freemason 32nd Degree Ritual, page 7


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reply posted on 16-7-2004 @ 08:30 AM by The Axeman
[I]Originally posted by MrNECROS[/I]

…So far no one has actually discussed the rite or posted any additional resources for it yet, we have a couple of hundred postings in the thread all of which seem to be directed at me rather than the topic along with a multitude of self expressed opions all of which are completely unsubstantiated by ANY material whatsoever that basically say that everything I've posted is somehow deliberately misleading, ignorant etc... Heaven forbid anyone actually posting the correct material if what I'm presenting is untrue (it isn't.)



Well, how about these just for starters:


[I]Originally posted by Masonic Light[/I]

…Descriptions of the ceremonies of this Degree, and commentaries thereon, can be found in the following books:

“A Bridge To Light” by Dr. Rex R. Hutchens, 33°, G.C.
“The Magnum Opus” by Albert Pike, 33°
“Clausen’s Commentaries On Morals and Dogma” by Henry C. Clausen, 33°
“Vested In Glory: The Regalia of the Scottish Rite” by Dr. Jim Tresner, 33°, G.C.
“Mackey’s Encyclopedia of Freemasonry” by Albert G. Mackey, 33°

A comparison of the ritual posted by “Mr. Necros” with the descriptions of the actual degree ritual illustrates the fundamental differences, as well as why uninformed non-Masons like Necros have difficulty separating fact from fiction, and understanding Freemasonry.


Sounds pretty relevant to me.

[I]Originally posted by Mirthful Me[/]
What you have come upon is the basic stage setting, including costume and makeup, list of characters, and outline of the 32nd degree which is communicated by performing a play! A skit! A staged reenactment of Masonic lore. Sherlock you're not, because there are far more interesting aspects of Freemasonry than what you choose to dwell upon.


Again, I believe he is referring to the original topic.

And wait a sec, what’s this?!?!

[I]Originally posted by Masonic Light[/I]
As mentioned, anyone who wants a description of the 32° initiation ceremony as practiced in the Mother Jurisdiction need only read Dr. Hutchens’ “A Bridge To Light”, which gives details of all the rites from the 4° to the 32°. The book is given as a gift to all new 32° Masons, but is available to the general public for 10 bucks.
I am very familiar with Brother McLenachan’s book. I own a personal copy, and we have 3 or 4 copies in our Lodge library. But there’s a few things you don’t seem to understand about the Scottish Rite.
Firstly, McLenachan’s Obedience was the Supreme Council of England, which operates independently from the Mother Council. The English ritual of the Scottish Rite is used only in the UK, not in any other country.
Secondly, McLenachan’s descriptions do not completely match the ritual used today in England. In his day, the degrees were not actually conferred in ceremonial form, they existed only on paper. A 3° Mason who was approved for membership in the Rite was given the 32° by proclamation, and then they gave him the rituals to study. The rituals described by Bro. McLenachan were never actually staged.


Is that discussion about the original topic? OMG!
One more…

[I]Originally posted by Masonic Light[/I]
Unlike yourself, I haven’t cut and pasted anything. I’ve patiently explained the hierarchy, ritual, and statutes of the Scottish Rite, and have given references to the official books and statutes of the Order. You, on the other hand, have apparently read one book that is over a century old, and believe you know what you’re talking about, although every Scottish Rite Mason on this board has had to correct you.
To back up your arguments, you have been unable to reference current rules, regulations, and rituals, but keep going back to Bro. McLenachan’s book, which was never even adopted as official. If you wish to continue this debate, you must familiarize yourself with today’s official Scottish Rite Masonry, which anyone can do by reading he books I’ve already mentioned, along with “Forms and Traditions of the Scottish Rite” by C. Fred Kleinknecht, 33°, Past Grand Commander, which supercedes all books of Forms and Traditions in the Mother Jurisdiction that were previously adopted by the Supreme Council.

The Official Books of the Mother Supreme Council (which detail ritual, and explain statutes and laws) can be purchased here:
www.srmason-sj.org... and here: www.srmason-sj.org...


As anyone who can read can see, the topic was discussed, in depth, references were provided, and what’s more, ML provided current information! Keep trying if you want to NECROS, but I think you are fighting a losing battle, and I don’t think anyone is impressed by you as much as annoyed. Good luck with your Trolling.


reply posted on 17-7-2004 @ 04:34 PM by Gerard
Originally posted by MrNECROS
The links provided my Masonic Lite and co. (ignoring the ones to toy companies and the like...) are not pointers to text, diagrammes, etc... they are just the titles of some books (one or two of which I own anyway) and none of which contain the level of detail of the 2 links I made available.
Would the Freemason known as Axeman please go elsewhere, the only "profane" he is fooling is his own roleplayed character.


Yet again we have another attack on Freemasonry by a person who has a hatered of Freemasonry and Freemasons. There are some people in this world who can only see bad in others and seem to enjoy discussing this badness. There are many Freemasons on this site who have given their opinion on your spin of Freemasonry and shown that you are wrong. You are not a Freemason and you will never know what happens in Freemasonry.All you can post is your opinions which lack substance. You have been accused of Trolling and I think that is a fair title.I suggest you take up another hobby, go and see football,learn a foreign language or some other hobby of your own choice.

Instead of trying to save the world from these alledgedly wicked Freemasons whom you believe are part of the Great World Conspiracy; do something more constructive with your spare time. As a Freemason who is always willing to help people in need I can tell you that helping your brother or sister is the right thing to do. It makes the world a much better place to live in.

Gerard



reply posted on 13-3-2005 @ 08:29 PM by ThePunisher
Thanks for putting this book online MrNecros i will have a read

Charles T McClenechan's "Book of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (1884)"

www.freemasonry101.org.uk...

It will be interesting to read, i have been directed to this 7 page thread from this locked thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

The posting style in this 7 page thread is all over the place

[edit on 13-3-2005 by ThePunisher]
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