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Originally posted by jonah0julian
Atheists are smarter because they are more focused on science. The theists just say that the universe is not governed by randomness but by "God".
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
reply to post by jonah0julian
The universe surely is not governed by randomness.
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms—it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by MoothyKnight
Einstein wasn't religious. He was a deist, who believed in an cosmic kind of god who reveals itself in physicals and the laws of nature.
Originally posted by makinho21
reply to post by jd140
You are speaking out of ignorance and are attempting to portray that stupid argument "both sides require faith"...which is a truly and unbelievably ignorant thing to say. Atheists don't have a god; it is not "randomness" and we do not worship it.
I have already linked to this video a few times, but I suggest you watch it (but I bet you won't because you are too cool for school.):
Maybe you'll open your eyes for once.
Also what purpose did your comment have regarding my OP? It seems you just wanted to do some bashing yourself. Good for you, let that theologian anger out!
Originally posted by makinho21
reply to post by john124
John this is one of the best posts I've read - and I totally totally agree. Belief in an afterlife and worship of a god to make sure you get to paradise or any other heaven-type sanctuary is a waste of one's life.
Not believing in a god and salvation, for me, makes life immeasurably more beautiful and means our actions and treatment of others is that much more important - we only get one chance to do things right. What good is that some would ask? Well you hope that by treating others with respect, dignity and care that they propagate those same attitudes out to their circle of friends and so on. We only have one life to do things right, and by acting graciously and kindly, I would hope others do the same. It's not about instant gratification - it is about lying down the foundation for a society that cares and helps one another.
Call it universal cooperation.
And ofcourse there is no cop out for when you do things wrong - you can not simply be "forgiven" and on your way, or pretend you'll apologize for your mistakes in the afterlife - people have to take responsibility for their actions because those are what carry over to others.