I was prompted to touch on that period of time when we were nearly wiped out. It has importance in the fact that possibly the biblical event of Noah's time was true. How is that for eye opening?

I know they try to find ways to talk around that fact not being as the Bible records those events of world wide magnitude to have been, but it does leave the door wide open for further thought and meditation.

Civilization at the time of Noah was world wide and the flood was world wide according to the bible.

There are just too many un-answered questions, in order for me to believe the status quoe.

I have not drawn these conclusions from reading other people's books. I have no idea about what Stichin and others like him have written. I believe they have drawn similar conclusions to what answers I have come up with during my research and meditation.

Originally posted by win 52
Civilization at the time of Noah was world wide and the flood was world wide according to the bible.

According to the Bible, Noah gathered two of every single type of creature on the Earth, somehow determining the sexes of every last gnat and fruit fly.

Somehow this Ark was not only large enough to accomodate for two of every single type of creature on Earth, but also large enough to hold food and water for 40 days and 40 nights. During this time no animals ate one another or else some of God's creations would have been murdered and made extinct.

It's a nice story, and so are alot of them. But I wouldn't base science on it.

OK, heres why the story is BS,


not only did the egyptians have to make it to north america in the first place, they also had to make it to the pacific ocean, cause thats the only way to get into the colorado river basin. So either they made it 3/4 of the way around the planet to enter fromthe pacific, or they made it around the cape, or they hauled all that stuff all the way across the isthmus of panama through the jungles. Yah right.
Or they had to drag all that stuff halfway across a continent that was already well populated with people, people that didnt necesarily take well to strange people crossing their lands.
And as far as "forbiden areas" in the grand canyon thats bs as well, the only areas with restricted access are indian tribal lands, otherwise just get a wilderness permit and you can go where ever you want.

A few years ago, a frenchmen body floated the length of the colorado river, it was quite the amazing feat, no "forbidden areas" were encountered.

Now as far as treasure goes, stories abound about lost treasure in the four corners area and the southwest. One story that has been absorbed by the lost dutchman mine legend is that of a stash of gold coins and objects hidden in the desert.
Another verified story, one that im trying to find some online reference to, is one of a stash of treasure near present day Las Vegas, a days drive from any way.
There was a tv documentary about it 30 years ago.

Any way, a guy found a stash of coins and jewels in the desert near las vegas in the 20's. He kept theb location secret even from his family, which helped him with the recovery of the "treasure".
He pawned some of the stuff to pay for his gambling habit and most of what he recovered he again hid in the desert. There were spanish doubloons found and one item that he had appraised, that a photo still exists of, was a piece of the english crown jewels that has been lost since the early 1800's.
It was a broach that was made for a queen in the late 17th century and the last time it was catalogued was in the early 19th century, and it was assumed that the broach was either sold or remade into another peice of jewelry.
But it turned up in the nevada desert in the 20's.
The man died from injuries suffered in a fall while working in the "mine", his wife drove him to las vegas where he died of his injuries, but was never able to find the mine again, because he was so paranoid he blindfolded his wife when he took her to the mine.
Then theres the story of two airforce men who while spelunking in a restricted part of a base in the sixties, im thinkin it was white sands,
supposedly found a stash of gold and silver coins and and bars, precious stones and even suits of armor. They were both young officers at the time and didnt want to risk thier careers so they didnt tell anyone for decades.
When they went back years later it was all gone.
In an interview, one of the men said it was like "pirate treasure" when talking about the gold and silver coins in wooden chests, and the stacks of gold and silver bars. What I found intrigiung is they saw suits of 16th-17th armor in the cave.
they only took a few coins from the stash, coins that were later found to be authentic spanish coins frpom the 17th century.

There has been a treasure in the southwest, but its certainly not egyptian.







[edit on 12-8-2009 by punkinworks]

Originally posted by pikestaff
some Egyptian mummies have been found to contain Nicotean and cocain [I hope I spelt those two right], so someone went to the Americas, one theory is that the Chinese visited the americas, who knows?

>Took the words right out of my mouth.Star for you.Though the Egyptions could have made such journeys im having trouble with the Smithsonian denying the expedition took place.Also how do you missplace a find of this magnitude if it was real?

One of my problems with the whole coc aine mummies thing is that coc aine use is only identifiable through the production of anti-bodies by the body, or as they are called metabolites.
And coc aine is completely broken down in the body within several days and is only indentafiable in hair folicle samples. So to say they found traces in body tissues calls the findings into question right off the get go.

And its a real long way from anywhere in egypt to a place where the coca plant will grow.
And there is no way they were able to import it in any quantity from the new world, it would not have survived the voyage with any compunds intact.
The nicotine has many old world sources some of which are plants used in the mummifacation process and the who is surprised by the use of marijuana bgy the AE's it has been used in the middle east and africa for millenia.
Subsequent newer studies have shown no coc aine to be found in any old world mummies

AEs had no large ocean voyage skills nor boats capable to make the journey. This is a FACT, so you will have to assume a spacecraft got them there as that would be a more likely scenario.....

This article goes on to describe oriental deities and glyphs of unknown origin... So we are saying the Egyptians and Buddhists co-inhabited peacefully a cave in arizona....lol! Which was it? Buddhists or Egyptians, 2 very different cultures, why would both appear in the same caves.
The tomb interior looks more Roman at a stretch and not even remotley Egyptian or Oriental, so shall we throw the Romans in there also?

The obsession with Egyptology was huge back then, it was like following Britney Spears today. The article also smacks of misleading racial ovetones..ie, we had "more advanced" civlisations here before the Indians, .....Its a hoax.




[edit on 12-8-2009 by zazzafrazz]

Okay I feel the need to point out somethings that I think posts here are overlooking! I re-read this thread and I cannot find a reference that Kincaid was a egyptologist. So with that in mind IF he found something that looked Egyptian with out having been educated on Egyptology all he could make would be a SWAG. No internet, education was not really as broad as today nor as in depth. So if not his field of study he was just slightly better than a layman. {If he existed} Now on the other hand take the Piri Reis map. Supposedly coming from sources gleaned from the library of Alexandria. I hate to add another conspiracy to a thread about a conspirancy.

All through the Middle Ages were circulating a number of sailing charts called "portolani", which were accurate maps of the most common sailing routes, showing coastlines, harbors, straits, bays, etc. Most of those portolani focused on the Mediterranean and the Aegean seas, and other known routes, just as the sailing book which Piri Reis himself had written. But a few reported of still unknown lands, and were circulating among few sailors who seemingly kept their knowledge about those special maps as hidden as they could. Columbus is supposed to have been one of those who knew these special sailing charts.

Hmm sailors keeping charts secret? For a more contemporary theory a boat or more from AE actually sailed by chance or design to the Americas, made friendly contact and eventually sailed home with a chart with directions that never were shared.

Or the temple in the grand canyon was built by the folks who taught the Egyptians and the maps used to make the Piri Reis map was left from these very same people! The gap in human knowledge about our earliest past was caused by the loss of the Library of Alexandria! Hey for all we know the Vatican Library may have a few real interesting bits of knowledge in it too.