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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 06:34 AM by Hanslune
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Howdy Harte

I'll take my punishment and go re-research that....

Hello Win 52


I believe there are a lot more underground bunkers than you give credit for.


Hans: Obviously



You don't think they would ever make that information public, do you?


Hans: Why not?



The Norweigen's seem to think they can house up to half of their population ... give or take, in their underground facilities.


Hans: Really, why a link would be kewl



Why are world governments making these kinds of preparations?


Hans: They aren't I see no world-wide preparation for what you seem to fear. The seed bank is in regards to long term environment decay-caused mainly by humans.



What did ancient astronomers know, that we aren't being told about?


Hans: Obviously nothing as they didn't record anything nor is there anything we can see either, I do hope that is not a 2012 comment? LOL


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 05:23 PM by win 52
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It is things like this, that make me think about things from various perspectives. I am just working to understand what my life's experiences have been trying to tell me. I have found many things that are not quite the way we are told. Why should these cave complexes be different. They are already controvercial, and that makes them subject to some type of cover-up.

Any sites which are not sensetive, are not shrouded in controvercy.

now, you can poo poo this if you like as it matters not to my preparations

I guess you are not in the elite group ..... or you are trying to dis-credit the information.



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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 05:47 PM by zazzafrazz
reply to post by win 52



By Zorgons beard, what has this got to do with this silly hoax named in this thread?



reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 05:55 PM by win 52
There is a connection to underworld Hopi Legends.
3114 BC - Why is this date significant in Mayan History?

A piece of the ancient MesoAmerican world is where the story begins. It is a ceramic object called the Vase of the Seven Gods(lords). see Image
The images on the Vessel of the Seven Lords seem to represent creation events and on the vessel the scholars have identified an hieroglyph representing the date of 3114 BC as one of the transition phase of such a creation period. The exact date is August 11, 3114 BC according to scholars. The story on the vase goes on to say that the MesoAmerican world had been in a very dark age until the Sun Lord was reborn. This new age is the "Age of Movement". According to some scholars, one of the Lords is called Bolon Yokte K'uh and he is a bitter lord. He is the commander and chief of the Underworld.

The story takes off from this period interpreted on the Vase of the Seven Lords and continues along the timeline of the Mayan time keeping calendars.
The Underworld Lord Bolon Yokte K'uh is also found in the Dresden Codex on the 60th parchment where he is carrying a spear and pointing it towards another Lord as if to attack. ( this is so in tune with the Sagittarius Archer Story - watch how it develops.)
Again on the Dresden Codex he is seen riding atop a serpent presenting a bound captive to another Lord. The Glyphs surrounding Bolon Yokte are heavily emphasized by serpents and water and the color blue. (my view of one possible fantastic scenario of a battle amongst the overlords - Ophiucus and Serpens)

Back to the Calendars...

These calendars are cyclic as opposed to linear. Linear timekeeping is a one way street while cyclic timekeeping is a merry go round. But the cyclic calendars the the Mayan used tell both long and short stories. There are 52 years cycles, 260 day cycles, and several more. Perhaps, like today, in ancient days only very qualified people would have known how to read these cycles and this would have made them very powerful people, demigods almost who seemed to have magical powers. Powers of prophecy that would allow them to tell the average Joe tribesmen when something would occur.

Some cycles last about 5100 years. These are the dawning of new ages and from 3114 BC to 2012 AD is one such age. These eras that last 5126 years are the creation, body, and death of an age.

The story goes on to say that Lord Bolon Yokte K'u makes his return at the end of the age of movement. He creates chaos and disharmony to the natural and the metaphysical realms. But another Lord eventually overrules and returns Bolon Yokte K'u to his Underworld.

After this battle, the harmonic nature of matter and spirit rebalance themselves but in an even higher frequency than had been known to man.


taken from here, and there are lots more if one cares to look

I know it is hard for people to read the posts, but the answer is already there as posted.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 06:03 PM by win 52
reply to post by zazzafrazz



It is not a hoax.... the area in question is a very sacred place, according to Hopi legend. It is where they came from...... or ..... after surviving several years of storms and bad weather caused by possibly a brown dwarf passing by, all that remained of the Hopi tribe left this area, going back to what they were doing before the event.

So the tribe came out of the caves where they were hiding out.

It is merely a re-play of a cyclical event.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 06:25 PM by zazzafrazz
reply to post by win 52



It has een proved hoax throughout this thread since inception.
The guy never existed. Proven FACT.

The cavern described is not remotley egyptian in its stylistic depiction. Infact it looks Roman at a stretch.

The objects described are amateur descriptions to say the least, and reflect the obsessions with Egytology that era had in America.
Budhists co inhabiting in there with Egyptians? I dont think so. In fact I go out on a limb here and say I KNOW so.

Dwelling outside of caves was Egyptian practice if we are talking about a civilisation that had moved to smetling gold and understoood mummification, there would be evidence of existence outside of the subterranean levels. They also would have commenced trading practices and created temples and housing complexes.

Their ships could not make this voyage-Fact

There is not one piece of evidence brought out-Fact

This is a proven hoax time and again.
If you wish to believe in Mayan doomsday and Hopi tradition, feel free win, however connecting it to something that has no credence whatsover, is stretching.

Its like you are making a connection to the tooth fairy so that angels exist and therefore the bible is true regarding armageddon.


reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 09:41 AM by win 52
reply to post by zazzafrazz



Have you been there?

It does not matter what you think, or for that matter, what has been reported by examining evidence. The reports are compromised and the information given is missleading.

There is an agenda which most people can't see, surrounding this area. No surprise that people who just read reports may be reading reports with specific agendas to prove false theory.

What this creates is a conclusion based on how far a person can P.

Do not be surprised when the Hopi move back into that cave complex.


reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 11:35 AM by zazzafrazz
reply to post by win 52



As I said the Hopi can do as they wish, this cave complexes have nothing to do in reality with a hoax of Egyptian and Asian artefacts in a dwelling complex. The caves may exist, the Hopi tradition exists, but the "find" does not.


reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 03:01 PM by win 52
reply to post by zazzafrazz



It seems you have about as much grounds for your position as do the people who support the theory of there being artifacts in cave complexes (created by local artists), which resemble artifacts found elsewhere in the world (Giza being one place). It is from a time when submerged cities were above Ocean levels and land bridges were available for trade routes.

Guess what? The evidence has been removed, tampered with and covered up to portray/support wrong theory as being factual.

I will keep working on my particular line of thinking, for now, waiting for other information to surface.

Just because some people call this a "Hoax", does not make it correct thinking. The jury is still out.


reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 05:19 PM by zazzafrazz
reply to post by win 52



And then I too subscribe to the tooth fairy being real.
Just because its claimed its not real by people who CAN prove its NOT real, does not mean its NOT a real angel. (I like this delusional debate technique I shall use it in future, ignore the evidence and find 'evidences' to propogate a self belief...fun)

The end of days will come when the Hopis return to their caves, and the Budhists again intebreed with Ancient Egyptians. Their religion and culture is sooooo incredibly similar afterall. You know reincarnation and betterment of the individual and collective, compared to abject domination of the minions and singular afterlife reflecting your exact materialistic existence on earth...the connections between the two is astounding, your right, why wouldnt they co inhabit and interbreed in a cave in the middle of the US.

As you join the Hopis, The tooth fairy will then appear on said mountain in Meggido, Israel and launch an assault of collected teeth at satans forces. I'll be handing the fairy teeth whilst you tremble in your cave.

Yawn, bored now
Enjoy your research





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reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 05:49 PM by win 52
reply to post by zazzafrazz



Strange times breed strange remnants.

You assume we are more advanced as civilization, than ever before, here on planet Earth.

I assume we are at the bottom of the latrine.


reply posted on 30-3-2012 @ 11:11 PM by mr-lizard
Sorry to bump an old thread but I found this and it was an interesting read indeed:

keelynet.com...

The following is an intriguing article entitled "Archeological
Coverups", by David Hatcher Childress in the above NEXUS magazine.
Following that is a newspaper article from a 1909 newspaper
indicating a bizarre suppressed find in the Grand Canyon area.

It indicates either a hoax published at the time OR that the
Smithsonian and/or the government is covering up details of past
archeological discoveries that would rock current understanding of
the past.


Defo worth a read.



reply posted on 31-3-2012 @ 01:57 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by mr-lizard



Its a good example of how to make made up stuff almost sound believable

Sorry no ancient Egyptians in the Grand Canyon, lol


reply posted on 31-3-2012 @ 01:31 PM by mr-lizard
reply to post by Hanslune



My mistake, didn't check.

Sad to find out it's not true
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