reply to post by justamomma
the prophets point to israel, because they are israel.
SOn of man has different levels i explained.
In the end ALL humans that life for care,
choose one, will be israel.
Salvation comes through the jews, means
it comes through the levels, first the prophets, then the seed,
then the rest.
salvation comes through the jews, also is symbolic for the southern
kindgdom, the southern kingdom never left a god that is one,
they are judeah, they will flee to the mountains (= wisdom),
as prophesied in the prophets.
They symbolise all people who live for care, and never
left that care.
I am not arrogant in what i tell you about israel,
I tell it some nobody can ever hide behind it,
i respect the nation of israel,as i respect all nations,
to be from god. Different functions yes,
but all people are from our god.
I see a difference between the seed, and the nation.
I don't think in terms as arrogance, i see everybody's
right for heaven, they just get to there on different ways.
btw, you are right, the messiah doesn't save you outside of yourself,
people save themselves, the messiah points the way in and out of you,
as an option, he doesn't take away the (mental) cross of people.
the cross of care.
[edit on 29-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]