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Originally posted by UrgentTimes
Scary stuff. Read the news a minute ago and it was about the swine flu. (I live in Sweden) It said that about 400.000 swedes will get infected even if the vaccination is prepared. This is supposed to occur during autumn. worst case scenario would be 5 million infected.
I´m worried cos of this. And when i read all these bad things about the vaccine. It makes me even more worried. Are they really true? I mean are there evidence which shows sterility amongst those who have taken these shots? Even death cases? I´m writing this cos I don´t think anyone in my family is aware of this, and I don´t want to be forced to take a vaccine that sterilize me. And I definitely don´t want my family to take these shots. To be honest, I´m not even 16 yet.. This would all be bull# according to them if i told them what these shots cause.
Oh I also want to say that this site rocks! I finally decided to be a member, and looking forward to all the new exciting news.
Thanks! / UT (sorry if something is badly written, hope you´ll understand my English hehe
Originally posted by templar knight
Two facts to bring up about vaccination:
1. If you reach critical mass with vaccination, then you can eradicate a disease from the population. Start reneging on vacinations as an outrageous report on measles happened a short while ago (triggered from ONE biassed/badly written scare monger story) and suddenly we got an outbreak of measles.
2. I did a biochemistry degree 20 years ago and then the technology for vaccinations was to produce the "coat" of the cell (not the cell itself) so that antibodies would be raised. The coat was benign, but fooled the body enough to create anti bodies.
Yes there will always be specific reactions to anything where mass injections occur. (that will happen statistically)
One other thing to bear in mind:
1. Ask your GP if he/she has had the injection. Then ask for a second opinion. Then ask for a third. These people are usually highly intelligent people, would they kill themselves, their family or their community?
This conspiracy is highly dangerous and without balanced facts from both sides, could cause a worse problem than the immunisation is trying to stop - as had happend with the measles outbreak.
An “informal” [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)
Approximately 3500 Chinese children died in an Avian Flu vaccine experiment. (Rumor, 2008)
3. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)
The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its’ primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to “eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans”. (Fact, 1985-ongoing)
The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)
Monsanto’s MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)
7. (cut because it is a long one)
8. (Long one, didn't even want to cut and paste)
9. (Same reason as the above two)
A WHO investigation into the Baxter contaminated vaccine issue resulted in NO findings and in NO disciplinary actions. An Austrian investigation into the same events yielded the same results. (Fact, 2009)
Baxter has been rewarded with a lead role in developing, producing and disseminating the Swine Flu vaccine for the upcoming pandemic. (Fact, 2009)
Swine Flu was first identified to the public as a serious problem in April/May 2009 when 168 persons in Mexico were confirmed by CDC and WHO to have died from the Swine Flu. This number was later revised downward to only 16 deaths. (Fact, 2009)
It normally takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months to create a vaccine after a specific virus has been identified. (Fact)
The US Government has spent more than a billion dollars to develop and to make available the Swine flu vaccine for a disease which poses no significant health threat. (Fact, 2009)
The “Seed Culture” for the Swine Flu virus was provided to vaccine companies in May, 2009. Baxter International Inc. announced in June, 2009 that they would have their vaccine ready in July, 2009 . (Fact, 2009)
16. A WHO container of Swine Flu virus from Mexico City exploded on a passenger train in Luzon, Switzerland. All of the current Swiss cases of Swine Flu are from the area where the explosion took place. It is illegal to ship pathogenic viruses in this way. (Fact, 2009)
A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally. (Fact, 2009)
Originally posted by Dnevnoi
True that is a problem of false hope. But if the vaccine stops people from getting H1N1 then it will surely cut the mortality rate down and the containment of the newer strain can become more of an issue. Of course one of the worst things would be for people to refuse the vaccine and get H1N1 as well as the newer strain.