What are those flashing lights up there?, page 2
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reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 10:08 PM by satgirl
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Do they look different with a telescope? Can you see any detail at all?


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 10:42 PM by pop_science
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I have something like this going above my house there is this one light that isn't a star nor satellite from my knowledge and it's just strange and has boggled my mind.
I've posted on here about it before but anyway it's a very bright sometimes blinking light and I've only seen this happen twice but another light comes often very much like a plane and will attach to the light move a distance stop and then the plane will start traveling on its own again and the light will become stationary again.
I have no idea, I shined a laser at it and it seems to be much much closer then it looks but I have constant plane traffic by my house and had to stop because a plane would be coming.

After I get my surgery I hope to take a video but I don't think it will show much.



reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 08:38 AM by satgirl
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Excellent vids, zorgon! Those are very interesting little... whatever they are's, lol!


reply posted on 7-7-2009 @ 02:42 PM by satgirl
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I'm so glad you got one on video! I've tried, but my camera refuses to cooperate, lol. Can't wait to see yours!


reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 10:51 AM by C.H.U.D.
Hi satgirl,

It' impossible to say for sure exactly what you're seeing without having also seen it, but you are probably seeing a mixture of satellites, junk, and meteors.

Certainly the fast moving objects that you describe are probably meteors. Meteors come in many different forms, and display a wide range of speeds, colors, plus many other characteristics that often confuse people. The slowest meteors can appear to move as fast as a swift satellite, and it's often hard (even for experienced observers) to tell the two apart. The fastest can cross the sky in ten seconds.

There are lots of people who observe the same sky (including myself), and they also see what you are seeing, but none of the experienced observes I know have been reporting anything out of the ordinary.

Unfortunately, just because you have some experience observing the sky, it does not mean you have seen everything that is "normal" - a common misconception. It takes many hundreds of hours observing, even a lifetime to become truly experienced, and even than you will not know it all. There are still phenomena that science has yet to explain, so anyone that says they know it all is not being straight with you.

It's great that you spend time watching the sky, and I hope you and your sister keep watching, because there is so much to see up there that the vast majority of people are completely unaware of. Keep questioning what you are seeing, and learning about it. Listen to those with real experience, and a level head, like Phage, NGChunter etc.


reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 11:50 AM by satgirl
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Thanks for the reply ziggy. I can PROMISE you though that these are definitely not meteors. Meteors don't spin around, go in circles, stop in the sky and then go backwards. These objects do. Neither to any satellites that I'm aware of, space junk or anything else known. I definitely don't claim to know about everything that is up there, but these things surprise me. I really do wish I could get video of these objects so I could put them on here. I know others have seen them, but for those who haven't, I really do wish you could see them because they're quite fascinating. I know what the typical irridium flare looks like as well as other bright flashes caused by satellites. I know the objects that move across the sky, get brighter and then fade away are probably just satellites, but these objects are very very different. I have taken astronomy and while this in no way makes me an expert on the subject, I'm knowledgeable enough to know that these things aren't any thing that is "supposed" to be there. Since starting this thread, I've found quite a few other threads where ATS'ers have posted about seeing the same things. Some have been seeing them longer than I have, but we all agree that more and more of them are being seen now. I can honestly say that I see them EVERY night that I'm out and the sky is clear. Sometimes I'll only see a few and other nights they will show up just every few minutes. I honestly have no idea what they are. I just know what they aren't.

Edited to add: Ziggy, I agree with you that this is probably just some kind of natural phenomenon that is yet to be explained. I just wish someone would hurry up and figure it out and explain it, LOL!

[edit on 7/11/2009 by satgirl]


reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 04:09 PM by C.H.U.D.
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Hi satgirl,

Agreed, anything that does not appear move more or less in a straight line, is probably not a meteor. It sounds like you would know a meteor when you see one, so I'm inclined to agree with you when you say they could not be meteors.

This subject has actually come up before (see the thread: Starlike objects that move strangely in the sky), but I'm at a loss to explain what people are seeing, since neither I nor others in the astronomical community around me are not seeing these objects... or at least not seeing them perform strange maneuvers.

From past experience, in most cases, the answer is usually "right under your nose", although it's not always obvious.

The first thing that springs to mind is, were you observing with your head supported/still? If not, try doing so in future to rule out body movement as the source of the apparent motion.

How about fire-flies, or sparks from a fire? Is there any chance it could have been either of those?

You said one of the ones you saw went from horizon to horizon in under 10 seconds... can you elaborate a bit? Did it also deviate from a straight path? Did the others all move this quickly? How many times have you seen them now, and what dates/times?

Might I also suggest, that if you and your sister are observing at the same time, and if you both know your way around the constellations, that you observe with some space between you, and then compare notes after, you might be able to rule out things that are close by (low altitude), which might seem obvious that they are not, but without that separation in distance, it's impossible to tell for sure. The further apart you are the better. 5-10 feet apart should rule out things very low down, like fireflies.

With careful notes, 50 km between you, and some math, you could probably get a fairly good estimation of altitude if you wanted to try taking it that far.

By the way, how dark/clear are your skies, and is the contrast between sky and object always good? If you have some light pollution, it might be interesting to find out what you can see from pollution free site.
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