Disturbing News about Swine Flu

reply to post by Jools


No, You're not.

Here's the creepy thing. I am watching Stephen King's "The Stand" on TV right now. In movie (based on the novel), there's a plague that wipes out nearly all of mankind, spurring Armageddon and a final showdown between good and evi. You know what that plague was? SWINE FLU. I nearly fell out of my chair.

Here's another bizarre question. How are they going to keep the NYSE open? I mean the trading floor. Will it have to be all electronic trades?

Also, if there are dusk to dawn curfews what happens to bar/tavern owners? Or casino operators?

bird flu
swine flu
monkey flu

whats next horse rash

living at a costal town thats flocked by birds that migrate yearly , we never got the bird flu

we even got bird houses on the yard , but nothing.

i take it this swine flu is just as much overhyped media nonsence as when i first saw news about birdflu in the 80´s.

more people die of tbc, normal flu , falling down and standing up daily then this flu will ever reach in numbers.

besides how do you know youve havent allready had birdflu or some other animal flu , cause generaly before all these scare tactics came to be most doctors just prescribed medicin without taking some sort of sample because it all was just flu

basic flu.

reply to post by zerbot565


Well not your basic flu, because at the moment, there is no vaccine for this one. I agree the symptoms are mild, and it's over-hyped (well at least here), but there is reason for concern, simply for the possibility of a mutation that could hit in the fall, and that could end up being very nasty, if it's a more dangerous strain.

However, unlike many who are assuming that it MUST mutate into a deadlier strain, there is actually a very low chance of this. It may also mutate into a strain that is too deadly (kills itself out quickly).

But it's not your normal run of the mill flu. If it were, WHO would not have raised their level to the highest on their scale.

I can envision our "mandatory volunteerism" program kicking off with disposal of bodies from swine flu or whatever. Most likely the older people would be given the task as exposure would lead to contracting the disesase.

On a side note: during the 1918 flu they used the ice skating rinks as morgues. My grandfather died of the flu shortly after my dad was conceived.

reply to post by witchbaby



The flu in Stephen Kings "The Stand" was a virus that escaped from a military compound. It was originally dubbed "Project Blue" by it's military creators but came to be known as "Captain Trips" by the general public as it killed 99.4% of the population of the United States and presumably the rest of the world. Never is it called "Swine Flu". Not in the Book or in the miniseries, so I'm not sure when you thought you heard it called that... With the hype that is already building around this strain of virus...both in how it came to be and what it might eventually become...is it really necessary to add a supernatural spin to it's nature? Save that for your friends who haven't read the book please!

reply to post by mikerussellus


My auntie,uncle and brother just recoverd from minor swine flu and the hospital gave us all TAMIFLU, my family took it with no hesitation..i took the box and threw it in the bin, i'm not touching that s**t and this was nearly 2 weeks ago.. nearly everyone in the family has got it but me.. imho i think Tamiflu is spreading it more...

i'm as healthy as can be,i'm not worried i'm young,reasonably fit and have a pretty decent immune system... in the winter it will probably be a bit worse than the normal flu deaths... i don't know where the Sky News tracker has gone for swine flu...so i cannot see how many cases there are now or deaths

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]

Originally posted by zerbot565
bird flu
swine flu
monkey flu

whats next horse rash

living at a costal town thats flocked by birds that migrate yearly , we never got the bird flu

we even got bird houses on the yard , but nothing.

i take it this swine flu is just as much overhyped media nonsence as when i first saw news about birdflu in the 80´s.

more people die of tbc, normal flu , falling down and standing up daily then this flu will ever reach in numbers.

besides how do you know youve havent allready had birdflu or some other animal flu , cause generaly before all these scare tactics came to be most doctors just prescribed medicin without taking some sort of sample because it all was just flu

basic flu.

Noted.

But please lets establish one thing ... it is not swine flu the only reason the media used that term is so it would sink into our minds and we would say oo the pig flu.. but its not.. its H1N1
2 part avian flu
2 part swine flu
4 part influenza ( Human flu )
almost like making a soup ( comic relief )
and if we learn anything history repeats its self.. sure its a new year but the flu does not know that.. i am not saying we are all going to die or anything , if anything it could weather away but lets not completely dis miss the idea of a worse outcome .. unless you can see the future no one knows..

1918 Spanish flu was a strain of H1N1
came in the early spring mild wave
fall/winter months it killed a vast amount of the population.

PEACE LOVE & ENLIGHTENMENT

reply to post by whadayawant


Excuse me, but I know what I heard.

In part I of the mini-series way in the beginning, one of the characters DOES say "this is some kind of Swine Flu." Go back and rent the DVD. Maybe in the book, it says something different. The mini-series was done in 1994, but it was eerily prescient.

Some have said on this site "predictions never come true".

I have a prediction and a bet for one of you involving the swine flu.

Here's 5 bucks that says the next Super Bowl played in the US will be played in an empty stadium, no fans.

But instead of paying the winner, just drop the 5 bucks in a church offering box somewhere. Any takers?

Originally posted by Rewey

No offence, but I don't buy it. I think you're old man might be pulling your leg.

It would be organised by people at the higher echelons of government, and they certainly wouldn't be telling lower-scale public servants 6-12 months in advance...

Not without signing off on a couple of 'certain' documents containing elements of the act, general and directly pertinant to op's and tasking involved in the contigencies recruitemnt, which if were the case they were signed, i doubt you'd still be posting here Haydn_17, your dad would be going away for a bit as well.

These things simply are not discussed at lower levels for many reasons, one of which, threads like this being started, is a prime example of.

I'm not sure I see the logic. The virus can not remain viable in a dead body.

Since this is far milder than the normal seasonal flu, I think this panic is unfounded. I don't recall panic over the seasonal flu as it killed tens to hundreds of thousands worldwide every year.

Mexico overreacted, over reported the deaths, panicked people ascribed every sniffle to the flu and now as it spreads it appears very mild.

Driving a car is more dangerous as are many other normal activities.

If anything, catching it now could be a good thing as it would provide immunity in the future I believe.

With all the things in this world their are to panic about, this seems very low on the list to me.

[edit on 6/21/2009 by Blaine91555]

lol if you people believe this then you are either very gullible or you have been reading too many conspiracy stories, this post fails miserably

I heard a similar story but it was about a hospital which supposedly has a whole 2 floors already sealed off. One for the dead and another for the dying.

I don't really believe that the op's or the story above could be true for the simple reason that nobody from lower down the chain would ever be allowed to know such information, and people really would start askibng questions of 2 floors of a hospital building just vanished.

I have no doubt such plans are in existance but nobody is going to be told about them now otherwise chaos will ensue.

Lets also remember, the virus is pretty harmless as it is now, it will have to mutate to cause the numbers of deaths predicted. If it mutates it could also become less effective at transmitting itself and die out. Only time will tell.

i'm not sure i believe you, but nonetheless (if you are who you say you are) you should immediately edit your post to take out that bit of personal info. about your father's job. he could be easily be identified by his boss etc. who might be VERY unhappy that details of that conversation were discussed at home.

don't share personal info. on the Internets!!

reply to post by Blaine91555


"I think this panic is unfounded."

Well, maybe. But what about;

A stitch in time saves nine.

If you are going to panic might as well panic early.

Mark Twain said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes".

Karl Marx said, "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce".

I guess sayings are only helpful after the fact. Because you have, "nothing ventured, nothing gained", and "a fool and his money are soon parted".

I don't trust the govt. to make good decisions. Remember Tounces the driving cat? He just drove a car or limo. What if they let him drive a school bus?

I don't understand whats so top secret about my dad using the furnaces if the original operators cant? He was told that they "could" expect deaths. Some members are going over the top, im not saying the council has secret knowlodge that thousands will die. Im starting to wish i didn't post anything.

reply to post by Haydn_17


Welcome to ATS Don't let people get you down and not wanting to post. This is normal for this site. You'll have to expect that not everyone will agree with what you post and there's nothing wrong with that. IMO, it creates a great cross section of debate where you can see truths from both sides of the coin.

I don't think expecting deaths in the thousand would be any kind of secret. Flu viruses kill....period and sometimes there's nothing we can do to stop them. So yes, looking at it in a logical way, one would have to expect a lot of deaths. All you have to do is look at history for that. There's nothing secret about being prepared for the worst case scenario.

Nope - you posted in good faith.

Its just a shame that some members on her cannot distinguish between a post of information and the lie/conspiracy they seek

It also significant that the number of members who cannot recognise the UK from America and use the fact that they lack a common sense of geography in favour of promoting thier own agenda.

Fair play to you on the original post - having worked in the clinical waste arena for a number of years I know what you say is the truth - and these is worse at the bottom of the rabbit hole.

But what is missed is common sense - these are contingency arrangements - not statements of fact or actuality.

Off topic i guess but i climb for a hobby - we learn all sorts of rules - to stay safe and what we should do in an emergency - this is called Risk Management - and the key to risk management is mitigation.

What your dad was told is part of the councils mitigations strategy - something they are required to do By LAW

As for our friends over the pond - well - nuff said - keep taking the "coloidal silver" and avoiding the flu jab!