Originally posted by Haydn_17
reply to post by DraconianKing
What proof do you expect? And i doubt the local council made the decision. Im not going to change what i have said, i was told this and thats that.
Originally posted by Sam60
reply to post by spikey
I don't agree there is any sort of concensus it will mutate into a much more serious or "deadly" disease during the winter.
Originally posted by Haydn_17
reply to post by spikey
Thanks, i don't know what people expect me to provide. Im just passing on the infomation my dad told me.
"...In the United States the disease was first observed at Fort Riley, Kansas, United States, on "March 4, 1918, and Queens, New York, on March 11, 1918. In August 1918, a more virulent strain appeared simultaneously in Brest, France, in Freetown, Sierra Leone, and in the U.S. at Boston, Massachusetts. The Allies of World War I came to call it the Spanish flu, primarily because the pandemic received greater press attention after it moved from France to Spain in November 1918. Spain was not involved in the war and had not imposed wartime censorship."
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. 1918 flu pandemic. Wikipedia
"However, a first wave of influenza appeared early in the spring of 1918 in Kansas and in military camps throughout the US."
Source: The Influenza Pandemic of 1918. Stanford
Today's H1N1 flu is descended from the 1918 H1N1 pandemic swine flu strain. Classical H1N1 has been endemic in hogs in the USA and Canada since 1930, at least, in a form relatively benign to people.
"The 1918 flu was an H1N1 flu ..."
Source: Reuters. October 6, 2005. Scientists recreate deadly spanish flu. ABC
"Viruses of the classical H1N1 lineage were virtually the exclusive cause of swine influenza (in the United States and Canada) from the time of their initial isolation in 1930 through 1998."
Source: Virus Res. 2002 May 10;85(2):199-210. The emergence of novel swine influenza viruses in North America. PMID: 12034486
So why not tell the truth?
Because what's really on the table is the profitability of large scale industrial animal husbandry, never mind international travel and other trade. Strategies for passive population reduction are also part of the play of course, but more as an opportunistic sidebar.
Industrial animal husbandry includes hog and poultry barns as well as cattle feedlots. Large scale operations crowd 10's of thousands of animals together, pump them full of antibiotics, antivirals and vaccines to keep them alive, and force-feed them for slaughter to provide meat for our tables.
The practice is defended as "efficient" and economically necessary. Unfortunately, such conditions virtually guarantee the creation of new, and often virulent, diseases. Far more reliably than laboratory petri dishes, industrial animal husbandry operations literally force microbes and viruses to mutate, thereby initiating and accelerating the evolutionary process and creating new diseases. These new diseases sometimes infect people.
The role industrial agricultural practices play in creating human diseases has been known for decades - long enough to determine that current practices are dangerously unsustainable.
However, food is an essential commodity - the market is better than guaranteed, and the profit margin can be amazing. So the world's ruling financiers started controlling our food supply early on, and went for large-scale high-profit industrial food production and animal husbandry.
The problems were clear by the 1970's. First came Rachel Carson's expose; then there was the other swine flu scare; Mad Cow destroyed Britain's cattle industry and devastated other nations' cattle producers too; and the bird flu crisis did the same to poultry producers in Asia. The writing has been on the wall for a good while.
The financiers created a strategy back-when to minimize their risk, and buy time to implement their plan: out with vertical integration, in with risk management. Clever opportunists that they are, the financiers divested their corporate holdings in food production, and focused on food processing and distribution.
Now food is produced, and animals are raised, on contract for the financiers' global corporate processors. Small farmers and independent producers line up for the contracts and their sliver of the pie, and they're holding the bag - if they don't deliver, they don't get paid. It's only a matter of time before it's gameover for the little guys.
But it's not gameover yet. The little guys are still protected by virtue of association, and their role as sidekicks.
International law protects global corporate industry, and overrides national laws. The relevant legal framework involves the interplay between corporate law and the WHO's 2005 International Health Regulations (IHR-2005).
Corporate law mandates that corporations protect profits over all other considerations, including civil rights, human rights and public health. In tandem, the WHO's IHR-2005 regulations specify "The purpose and scope of these Regulations are to ...control and provide a public health response to the international spread of disease in ways that are ...restricted to public health risks, and which avoid unnecessary interference with international traffic and trade." Huh?
So what happens when the appropriate public health response interferes with international traffic and trade? God forbid global corporate expansion?
Well, with respect to the H1N1 flu conflict, the legal argument is simple: "Even though the type A, strain H1N1 triple assortment clade flu virus evolved in the USA, the clade isolated in Mexico is ever so slightly different, so this one's not American. Don't even call it North American. Furthermore, the Mexican triple assortment clade of type A, strain H1N1 flu is being transmitted directly from person-to-person, not from pigs to people; therefor, it is not a swine flu anymore. Don't call it swine flu. The name hurts the pork industry. And don't tell anyone the truth about what's really going on because H1N1's spread can't be contained; it's too late to stop it and there's no point trying; therefor, providing accurate information to the public constitutes pointless and thereby "unnecessary interference with international traffic and trade," which is specifically prohibited under international law. In any event, overpopulation is a significant global issue - a major culling is in order and long overdue."
H1N1 swine flu probably will meet up with H5N1 bird flu or some other bug like SARS or AIDS, and maybe use pigs as a mixing vessel for re-assortment, or maybe not.
"Virologist Ruben Donis, chief of the molecular virology and vaccines branch at the CDC:
Q: What’s the newest part of this strain?
R.D.: Neuraminidase and the matrix are the newest to be seen in North America. They were not part of the team—I talk about flu virus as teams of genes. There are eight players. They have these two new players from Asia.
Q: It suggests a mixing of pigs from North America and Asia.
R.D.: One little detail we haven’t discussed is [that] these Midwestern viruses were exported to Asia. Korea and many countries import from the U.S. ...
But however it happens and wherever it jumps, this mild first wave likely will be followed in about 6 months by a deadly strain or clade."
Source: Science Insider. Exclusive Interview: CDC Head Virus Sleuth
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