well I posted this thread 4 hours ago and not one legitimate argument in favor of Obama! where are all the Obamatons with all their proof?

People. Stop lambasting Obama.

At least he's DOING SOMETHING.

Would you rather he do nothing?

Or, what, sit back on his haunches and wait for ANOTHER wave of comments to rip into THOSE actions?

If you're not happy with it, go assasinate him or something. Personally, he's making some mistakes but he's not VERY bad at his job right now.

Trust me, when he's VERY bad you can tell. Guns will ACTUALLY BE BANNED. Economy will downright CRASH. Repeat incidents of 9/11. Terrorism. Global war. Worse pandemics going around.

All presidents are bound to stumble a little here and there. Bill Clinton did. George Bush did. Even Ronald Reagan did. Harry Truman MOST CERTAINLY did.

Obama's only been in office for, as you've said, 5 months. He's inherited a world TEN TIMES worse than what previous presidents have had to deal with. Financial meltdowns, H1N1, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, national clashes between different groups of people...

Give him some time. Give him some credit to what he's been able to do. He's president of YOUR country.

If you don't support him, who are you going to support? Or who you rather just criticize and hope he crashes and takes your country down with him?

Or am I hearing some prevalent conspiratorial prejudices against him here?

Come on, folks. This is ridiculous. Jumping at his jugular five months since his inauguration.

Originally posted by KarlG

If you don't support him, who are you going to support? Or who you rather just criticize and hope he crashes and takes your country down with him?

My signature says it all.

Obama will be neutralized in 2010. Obama knows he only has 2 years to destroy the country...why do you think he is moving so fast on his programs?

Yes, I support Obama.

Am I an Obamatron?

Boy, are you one prejudiced, complacent smart-pass.

And my answer is, no.

Rather, what I see is that you - and SO many others - are unnecessarily critical of him.

I am NOT an Obamatron. If he crashes and burns like the Bushes did, you bet I will be saying a lot about it. But he's not. In fact, right now I think he's doing decent for a President with so much hate against him (he's got a lot more closeted haters than Bush, I think) who has to deal with a whole MESS of problems in the world.

I would so love to ask "What has Obama done SPECTACULARLY WRONG?"

Take the global meltdown for example.

The plan to intentionally create a deficit and to spend more to stimulate the economy may not seem like a plan to you... but ECONOMICALLY, it is. As in, Academics. As in, Economics. As in, why don't you read up on Keynesian theory of Aggregate Demand-and-Supply and then say something. High taxes are bad - I feel the pinch too - but what else can be done?

Besides, he didn't create it, unlike George Bush, who signed into effect a law that prevents transparency of large companies like AIG.

If you cannot suggest an alternative, then... keep quiet (putting it nicely).

I am unhappy with the taxes, and I vent my frustrations on the board, but ultimately I do not go so far as to being "an Obamatron".

Which is to imply, what, i'm some sort of robot mind-controlled by Obama?

During the election, I was a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton. Not Obama. In fact, I hoped he didn't take office. Now that he did... I have to support him. Because I am American.

If John McCain took office, I would have supported him too.

For many of the other issues, I would like you to suggest alternatives that could please BOTH SIDES of those issues. Energy crisis. H1N1. If you can do that, I'll nominate you for President myself.

Again, I am not an Obamatron.

But I think he needs support, as do ALL Presidents. I supported Bush at first. And then, 8 years into his presidency, he makes such a mess. Unpardonable.

5 months? No mess so far. It's all good. If he starts screwing up majorly next yr or the yr after, that's it. Boom. I'm gone.

But, right now all I can do is support him. Support AMERICA.

His cabinet is very skilled too.

Steven Chu, Nobel Prize winner? Robert Gates, skilled security tactician? Janet Napolitano, one of the top Governors before she took over Homeland Security? Hilda Solis, who understands everything minority labor workers go through?

Granted, Tim Geitner needs to do some work. As does Hillary Clinton, my former pick for President, who seems like such a shadow of Condoleeza Rice. Kathleen Sebelius has been dreadful so far. I have not seen healthcare measures in place, especially not the ones Obama proposed back in his campaign.

But does that make me hate Obama? No. I see YOU are. You are finding him so disgusting you are calling everyone who doesn't "Obama-trons". I'll give him 18 months before I make my judgment. Not five. Not in the wake of AIG. Of H1N1 GLOBAL PANDEMIC. Not in the wake of North Korea's hostage situation of two of OUR VERY OWN AMERICANS.

Where's your sense of patriotism?

Or are you all Republicans who have been listening a little too much to Rush Limbaugh?

Does that make you "Limbaughtrons?" Maybe "McCaintrons?"

I have not been receiving radio signals in my head. Maybe you have. We all know Rush Limbaugh is part of a radio station.

Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by KarlG

If you don't support him, who are you going to support? Or who you rather just criticize and hope he crashes and takes your country down with him?

My signature says it all.

Obama will be neutralized in 2010. Obama knows he only has 2 years to destroy the country...why do you think he is moving so fast on his programs?

UNBELIEVABLE.

IT"S YOUR COUNTRY!

how can you say that?

You mean your hatred for one man is enough to cause you to NOT want the best decisions made for your country! You want in-fighting, where GOP does battle with Dems and NOTHING GETS DONE?

As in, Obama DOES NOTHING?

Goodness I'm so disgusted with you and I have half a mind to leave ATS right now!

Except, I remember, YOU are just ONE person out of the HUNDREDS (thousands?) here on ATS.

Maybe you should remember the same about Obama.

Originally posted by KarlG

Or are you all Republicans who have been listening a little too much to Rush Limbaugh?

Does that make you "Limbaughtrons?"

Try "Dittoheads" and proud of it!

Limbaughs point is if Obama's policies fail, America is better for it. If Obama succeeds America is screwed.

Originally posted by KarlG
Yes, I support Obama.

Am I an Obamatron?

Boy, are you one prejudiced, complacent smart-pass.

And my answer is, no.

Rather, what I see is that you - and SO many others - are unnecessarily critical of him. Where's your sense of patriotism?

Or are you all Republicans who have been listening a little too much to Rush Limbaugh? Does that make you "Limbaughtrons?" Maybe "McCaintrons?"

Thanks for a very nuanced response. I'm on the outside looking in, and I am admittedly a centre-left type here in the Great White North. But it pains me to watch America tear itself apart with this partisan Bravo Sierra, and again, as an outsider, it appears to be the Right who is wrong.

Yes indeedy...where is your sense of patriotism? Good question, but of course you'll get the wrong answers. A star for you, nonetheless.

Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by KarlG

Or are you all Republicans who have been listening a little too much to Rush Limbaugh?

Does that make you "Limbaughtrons?"

Try "Dittoheads" and proud of it!

Limbaughs point is if Obama's policies fail, America is better for it. If Obama succeeds America is screwed.

Don't understand that bit though, about the policies failing and America being better for it.

Explain to me (I am GENUINELY INTERESTED) Limbaugh's point. If OUR PRESIDENT'S POLICIES fail, OUR COUNTRY is better for it? inversely proportional?

That's such a paradox! I don't understand. EXPLAIN!

Originally posted by KarlG

Explain to me (I am GENUINELY INTERESTED) Limbaugh's point. If OUR PRESIDENT'S POLICIES fail, OUR COUNTRY is better for it? inversely proportional?

That's such a paradox! I don't understand. EXPLAIN!

The easiest way I can explain it is.........

As bad as Jimmy Carter was, he didn't completely destroy the country. In fact Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Reagan!

Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by KarlG

Explain to me (I am GENUINELY INTERESTED) Limbaugh's point. If OUR PRESIDENT'S POLICIES fail, OUR COUNTRY is better for it? inversely proportional?

That's such a paradox! I don't understand. EXPLAIN!

The easiest way I can explain it is.........

As bad as Jimmy Carter was, he didn't completely destroy the country. In fact Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Reagan!

Ehhh.... still don't understand?

So you're saying the President after Obama will be fantastic?!

Um. Bush after Clinton wasn't exactly better.

(Edited) Worse, in fact. (/Edited)

Keep explaining - I don't think I get it yet.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by KarlG]

sorry for the DP but I have yet to here one beneficial thing he has done for this country

Originally posted by jkm1864
Survival of the fittest. Mother nature has a way of making sure the smartest & the strongest survive. I think the number of Obama supporters will continue to decline until one day You won't be able to find a single one.

We'll see about that.

Read anything about the GOP losing its power and appeal lately?