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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:02 AM by dragonking76
reply to post by genius/idoit


It's interesting to me how history repeats itself. I was just a newborn when Jimmy Carter took office. I only know a little about his tenure as president, because no one thought he was a very good president. Iran is in the news again too. Peacebringers have never been seen as good presidents, unless that peace has been gained through war.

Obama has certainly gotten everyone's attention, even Bill Mahr(sp) has shouted out against him. Great men are easy to hate. There are many who still hate Abe Lincoln.

It takes more than the president to take action.. there are checks and balances. The US government has become so desperate, I don't think it matters who the president is.

If you don't see the similarities, then my post will make no sense.

We could use Ross Perot right now. or a really good Sec of Treasury.. or a really good Fed chairman that works for us instead of the Fed. or....a more balanced congress(but then we'd whine about how nothing gets done because of the lack of "reaching across the isle").


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:05 AM by KarlG
Originally posted by genius/idoit
sorry for the DP but I have yet to here one beneficial thing he has done for this country


CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE NEWSPAPERS.

And don't start on some "The Newspapers are feeding us bad information about Obama" and all that. As far as I know, a writer on Time, Mike Murphy wrote in the May 25, 2009 issue (Pakistan's Tears on the Cover) that:

"Instead of making tough policy decisions, Obama practices the politics he ran against."

And so on.

I see terms like "dishonest language", "sacred cows that voted Democratic last November are still mooing happier than ever": BASICALLY, the whole article is a great fat insulting write-up about Obama.

No surprise, Mike Murphy's a GOP political consultant and writer.

And yet, he provides some fantastic points. Because he has done his research and has done a fair amount of good work. When I read it, I have opinions, but I feel that he will not take them to mean I am "an Obamatron".

Let me name you some of the things he's done:

He has prevented GM from crashing. Can u imagine what a crash would have done?
He has reversed the bans placed on stem cell engineering. Which will no doubt create jobs and for a non-believer-of-God like me, I do not see what the problem is.
He has rallied pharmaceutical industries to toss aside profits and consider H1N1 vaccines for the social benefit and not the revenue.
He has shut Guantanamo and are now shifting political prisoners away from the torturous, against-ethics nightmare.
He has already begun shifting soldiers back home, helped by Eric Shinseki, Sec. of Veteran Affairs.
He has stimulated spending, effects of which will pick up soon by mid-2010, according to economists.

What has he NOT done?

He has not set in place healthcare benefits for people who cannot afford it - now, more than ever.
He proposes to cut back on federal grants and student loans.
He has not yet cut back on greenhouse gas emissions, though Steven Chu is helping him find alternative sources.
He has not begun negotiation with labor unions and educational unions, though Hilda Solis is lobbying for greater retraining for minority groups.
He has not put in place measures to make sure people who can't afford education CAN afford it.

I am still loyal.

There are problems.

But i am NOT "an Obamatron".


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:09 AM by KarlG
Originally posted by dragonking76
reply to
post by genius/idoit


It's interesting to me how history repeats itself. I was just a newborn when Jimmy Carter took office. I only know a little about his tenure as president, because no one thought he was a very good president. Iran is in the news again too. Peacebringers have never been seen as good presidents, unless that peace has been gained through war.

Obama has certainly gotten everyone's attention, even Bill Mahr(sp) has shouted out against him. Great men are easy to hate. There are many who still hate Abe Lincoln.

It takes more than the president to take action.. there are checks and balances. The US government has become so desperate, I don't think it matters who the president is.

If you don't see the similarities, then my post will make no sense.

We could use Ross Perot right now. or a really good Sec of Treasury.. or a really good Fed chairman that works for us instead of the Fed. or....a more balanced congress(but then we'd whine about how nothing gets done because of the lack of "reaching across the isle").


Very true. Checks and balances are preventing policies from being implemented QUICKLY.

5 months only?!

What are the chances of the policies having been implemented AND its effects seen?

That is exactly what I am saying.

Ever heard of 'time-lag'?

America has the truest form of democracy in the world, closest to Athens' Pure Democracy System back in the Early Ages. NOTHING would ever get done (hence Athens' losses in wars) because their government would take FOREVER to put into place a policy. People would object, people would argue, people would fight...

Not unlike now.

It's ridiculous to cast such a definite shadow when he's IN FIVE MONTHS only.

At least, if you say something about his skin color and a conspiracy about his Muslim surname it would be more credible, because those have been fact throughout HIS WHOLE LIFE.

But it's very frowned upon, in this society, isn't it?

GOP would oppose Dems, Dems would oppose Dems, GOP would oppose GOP... Least we could do is support SOME of the people up there. Since I'm not supporting Palin or McCain, I guess I'm supporting Obama and Biden.



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:23 AM by genius/idoit
reply to post by KarlG





He has prevented GM from crashing. Can u imagine what a crash would have done? He has reversed the bans placed on stem cell engineering. Which will no doubt create jobs and for a non-believer-of-God like me, I do not see what the problem is. He has rallied pharmaceutical industries to toss aside profits and consider H1N1 vaccines for the social benefit and not the revenue. He has shut Guantanamo and are now shifting political prisoners away from the torturous, against-ethics nightmare. He has already begun shifting soldiers back home, helped by Eric Shinseki, Sec. of Veteran Affairs. He has stimulated spending, effects of which will pick up soon by mid-2010, according to economists.
GM has not crashed....hmm .stem cell engineering will create jobs........ok.he made pharm. company's care about people not profits....right.Guantanamo is shut down.......tell that to kalid sheik muhamid or whatever his name is.He has stimulated spending the effects of witch I might feel around mid 2010.........well I guess if we can wait that long we''ll see.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:32 AM by KarlG
reply to post by genius/idoit



Anyway, I think you're a fine person to have brought up these points.

And earlier you already said you're patriotic.

And honestly, that's all that matters.



I need to do things. It's like 7.30 in the morning. GO DO STUFF! The day's young!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:23 PM by grapesofraft
reply to post by eniac



Nobody is saying he did not inherit some problems, but he has made the worst possible choice at every turn.

If you are going broke you dont go out and spend a bunch of money on your credit cars, or borrow money to pay for your neighbors surgery, or give away part of your business to a foreign company.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:31 PM by bommer09
reply to post by genius/idoit



When it comes to Obama, I'm not a fan of everything he's done.

Economically, meh I really don't like the bailouts and gov't ownership of GM.

However, when it comes to matters of foreign policy, and how our country acts and treats other countries, and how we behave ourself on the world stage, I am damn proud of Obama.

I watched his speech in Cairo last week, and unless he was lying out of his ass there (which I don't believe he was) he is actually trying to help foster peace in the region. He quoted the Koran numerous times, showing that he actually knows something about the religion of the people whom he is addressing, that's more than I can say about any previous president. He is doing exactly what we tried to do in Iraq, win hearts and minds, except the difference is that Obama uses words instead of guns, and for that, I have the utmost respect.

Obama is not perfect, I don't expect him to be. There is more in this game than just policies and law. Obama is good for this nation's soul. Racial tensions are down all over the country according to polls, and people are generally more optimistic about the future. Obama might be a lot of glitz, but he gives the people something to believe in, the hope of a better tomorrow, which is a lot more than I can say about his predecessors.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:24 AM by genius/idoit
reply to post by neformore


I have to strongly disagree. aside from the fact that your reply doesn't address the question in the OP I will explain why I think your mistaken.remember I said I was no Bush lover and I'm not pro McCain either but at least with McCain we would have had the balance of a divided house and senate and it would have kept these nitwits in check.Having an all democrat house and senate has allowed obama to run rampant over the constitution and implement his ideology unchecked.


reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 01:38 AM by hangedman13
reply to post by neformore



Nope we never are,as for what the Republicans accomplished how about dealing with old issues? Iraq was the U.S.'s own little monster dating back to the cold war. The focus on Osama who we helped create. The Bush administration went and tried to deal with old problems from some previous administration's. Do you wonder if the current unrest in Iran stems from a quasi-democracy right next door?



reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 12:20 PM by depth om
reply to post by neformore



In my opinion, it doesn't matter LOL! The "US" has a time line to stick to and no matter who got in or how, what will happen was planned to happen.

Obama is just more "radical" and "cooler" and "new". An excellent magician. NLP in every address, strange mannerisms and shows like the fly killing.. just weird things.

His slogan was CHANGE..!? Wow, how.. shallow.


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:44 PM by jkm1864
Originally posted by bommer09
reply to
post by genius/idoit



When it comes to Obama, I'm not a fan of everything he's done.

Economically, meh I really don't like the bailouts and gov't ownership of GM.

However, when it comes to matters of foreign policy, and how our country acts and treats other countries, and how we behave ourself on the world stage, I am damn proud of Obama.

I watched his speech in Cairo last week, and unless he was lying out of his ass there (which I don't believe he was) he is actually trying to help foster peace in the region. He quoted the Koran numerous times, showing that he actually knows something about the religion of the people whom he is addressing, that's more than I can say about any previous president. He is doing exactly what we tried to do in Iraq, win hearts and minds, except the difference is that Obama uses words instead of guns, and for that, I have the utmost respect.

Obama is not perfect, I don't expect him to be. There is more in this game than just policies and law. Obama is good for this nation's soul. Racial tensions are down all over the country according to polls, and people are generally more optimistic about the future. Obama might be a lot of glitz, but he gives the people something to believe in, the hope of a better tomorrow, which is a lot more than I can say about his predecessors.




Are You kidding? I mean seriously You must be drinking some pretty powerful kool-aid if You like his foreign policy. If You haven't noticed NOTHING has changed. Our troops are still in Iraq and if they did leave they went to Afghanistan which is worse. N. Korea is still a problem and will be dealt with. The Iranians are still considered a threat. We have a very real possibility of WW3 in the next ten years and You are proud of Him. Oh Jeez I can't believe You people love and trust the same people that screw You day in and day out....


I hope You enjoy the new cap and trade taxes, the new 18% to 25% sales tax, government taking Your retirement, & national service..... I am starting to think You Obamaclowns are actually a bunch of free loaders that expect everyone else to pay Your way through life & if that is the case I can't wait for the government finances to crash and burn so You will get the same deal as me NOTHING!!!!


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 02:23 PM by weedev
Originally posted by bommer09
reply to
post by genius/idoit


I watched his speech in Cairo last week, and unless he was lying out of his ass there (which I don't believe he was) he is actually trying to help foster peace in the region. He quoted the Koran numerous times, showing that he actually knows something about the religion of the people whom he is addressing, that's more than I can say about any previous president. He is doing exactly what we tried to do in Iraq, win hearts and minds, except the difference is that Obama uses words instead of guns, and for that, I have the utmost respect.




That alone is progress!!!

Wake up America, your times of biggest and best is in decline! Obama is doing a grand job of trying to keep you afloat

Hindsight Professionals unite You guys kill me!
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