Calling all Obama supporters, page 1

reply to post by genius/idoit

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I came into this thread because I have O.D. -- Observers's Disease. It's a fearsome thing. A person afflicted with O.D. just can't resist watching a politcal car wreck, no matter how distatesful it gets. Thus, I'm magnetically drawn to the political threads, as a moth to the candle.

OP, did you really foresee a lot of traffic debating your points?

OBAMA LOVERS?

Nobody admits to being a LOVER, genius.

Try "supporter", and see the traffic flow.

cheers

reply to post by genius/idoit

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I honestly don't know why people are still disilllusioned by Obama, maybe it's stubbornness that they had been fooled by cheap political ads and talk that they don't want to admit that they had been played for fools. My other guess is that the media is telling us that he is the hottest thing since sunburn, but in reality his popularity isn't as accurate. Most people I talk to never cared for him during the campaigns, but voted for him because both guys were garbabe and they picked the one who was least likely to kick the bucket during the first year of his term. But then again, Americans are sold by image. Obama represents the stupidity that are most Americans. He's a photo op president, nothing more, nothing less, a mere puppet, but the people love the fact that he is a photo op president. "Oh look how cool he looks on GQ!" "

He likes basketball, and he goes to games with us regular people! Man that guy is cool!" The problem isn't Obama, I doubt he's a bad guy personally, but right now this country needs someone that worries about getting things done instead of making sure cameras are there when he buys a puppy. Regardless of what you thought of George Bush the 2nd, you got to admit, he got things done. He might have been a stuttering fool in speeches, but I don't think he ever cared. His problem was that he focused all of that energy into bringing us into 2 wars instead of something to actually improve the country. Imagine Obama's "promises" or "ideas" that aren't being met with George Bush the 2nds' way of getting things done.

reply to post by genius/idoit

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I see Obama as a nwo puppet just like Bush jr was but at least he's a puppet who doesn't come across as someone who has the intelligence and personality of a spoiled child. Obama will do what the nwo tells him to do and carry out their agenda by manipulating the hearts and minds of us sheeple. Obama is not the problem, our useless Congress as a whole is the problem.

reply to post by genius/idoit

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I have been trying to think of what it is that would keep me being an Obamtron, if I had been one. Can't think of a single thing. But that's not what you were asking. You wanted people who loved this man to post. However I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, even though he wasn't my choice, never was, nor were anyone else on the ballot in my state. Yeah, I could have voted for Ron Paul with a write-in, but that wouldn't count according to my state's rules. So, I looked at the ballot and walked out without voting, to the protest of the man who was manning the booth. He said, but you gotta vote! You signed in and we set up the machine for you! heh. And I said, with all due respect, sir, I do not. And I walked out.

Um.......well. though,........ while the I saved 150,000 jobs is a silly claim, I do wonder, what if GM and Chrysler were allowed to fail completely? I hear horror stories, and think, well, maybe this was the way to go, to save jobs, etc. Even with the loss of some jobs. And I truly don't know. But my intuition tells me it would have been best to just let those two coroporations suffer and the employees and all affected suffer, and according to my understanding of what free trade, capitalism and just basic freedom tells me, is that somehow it would correct itself, even if there was pain invvolved for many people. No doubt in my mind, if the secured creditors saw the companies falling to the wayside, they would have corrected this, just in order to save their own investments. But, I am not an economist, just had 5 courses in economics and multiple courses in finance and accounting. But, gee, what could I possibly know?



Anyway, I rambled one enough. What really urged me to post was the OP. Obama claims he created 150,000 jobs. That is not what he said. He said he created or "saved" 150,000 jobs. There is no way in hell to support such a statement. Nobody has been able to formulate a way to support such a claim. A president can say, oh, jobs grew under my administration and I am the reason for it all, and people can take this statement as a fact, but there is no way to substantiate such claims, unless, say, unemployment never occured, nobody lost a job, and the government created new jobs in government, of course, off the taxpayers's dime.

Edited cuz I didn't communicate well enough, and, of course, some will say I haven't even now, and others will say I didn't comminicate anything worthwhile at all. lol. Anyone, did I miss a point? Did I just say "neo-con" talking points, etc.?

This is after all, just opinion on my part because, well, I wasn't educated at Harvard or Yale, or, I dunno, name your school. lol.



[edit on 15-6-2009 by kyred]

reply to post by Southern Guardian

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Hold on I though he did too much? Now its the fact he didnt do anything?

I didn't say he didn't do anything I asked what he did that was a benefit to this country(and in case you forgot what country he is president of,I am referring to America)it seems to me he has done quite a bit to benefit other countries

[edit on 16-6-2009 by genius/idoit]

Originally posted by genius/idoit
reply to post by Southern Guardian

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Hold on I though he did too much? Now its the fact he didnt do anything?

I didn't say he didn't do anything I asked what he did that was a benefit to this country(and in case you forgot what country he is president of,I am referring to America)

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Finally it has only been five months and if you were not afraid of BUSH tinkering with
the rule of law in regards to the constitution, punishment and representation
I will pay the fee for your legal name change myself...



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[edit on 17-6-2009 by DJDOHBOY]

reply to post by mental modulator

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Well first Off I think you should just go by yer last name, but thats just me. Finally it has only been five months and if you were not afraid of BUSH tinkering with the rule of law in regards to the constitution, punishment and representation I will pay the fee for your legal name change myself...

That's 0 in the Obama has done this to benefit America column

reply to post by Southern Guardian

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His closing down Gitmo His withdrawal from Iraq by 2011 as promised in primaries His stimulus package (which you folk blame he for implementing but we support) His focus put back on Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden. His exposure and public acknowledgement of the unconstitutional torture that has been going on in the military. His lifting on restrictions regarding stemcells

he hasn't closed gitmo. he hasn't got us out of Iraq .it is 2009 not 2011 .if his stimulus has helped America I would like you to prove how. our focus was on Afganistan and OBL when Bush was in office .your use of the word torture is subjective at best ,and stem cell research will not IMHO be advanced in any meaningful way by the restrictions he lifted.I would say that's 0 for Obama helps America

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