reply to post by genius/idoit
I have been trying to think of what it is that would keep me being an Obamtron, if I had been one. Can't think of a single thing. But that's not
what you were asking. You wanted people who loved this man to post. However I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, even though he wasn't
my choice, never was, nor were anyone else on the ballot in my state. Yeah, I could have voted for Ron Paul with a write-in, but that wouldn't count
according to my state's rules. So, I looked at the ballot and walked out without voting, to the protest of the man who was manning the booth. He
said, but you gotta vote! You signed in and we set up the machine for you! heh. And I said, with all due respect, sir, I do not. And I walked out.
Um.......well. though,........ while the I saved 150,000 jobs is a silly claim, I do wonder, what if GM and Chrysler were allowed to fail completely?
I hear horror stories, and think, well, maybe this was the way to go, to save jobs, etc. Even with the loss of some jobs. And I truly don't know. But
my intuition tells me it would have been best to just let those two coroporations suffer and the employees and all affected suffer, and according to
my understanding of what free trade, capitalism and just basic freedom tells me, is that somehow it would correct itself, even if there was pain
invvolved for many people. No doubt in my mind, if the secured creditors saw the companies falling to the wayside, they would have corrected this,
just in order to save their own investments. But, I am not an economist, just had 5 courses in economics and multiple courses in finance and
accounting. But, gee, what could I possibly know?
Anyway, I rambled one enough. What really urged me to post was the OP. Obama claims he created 150,000 jobs. That is not what he said. He said he
created or "saved" 150,000 jobs. There is no way in hell to support such a statement. Nobody has been able to formulate a way to support such a
claim. A president can say, oh, jobs grew under my administration and I am the reason for it all, and people can take this statement as a fact, but
there is no way to substantiate such claims, unless, say, unemployment never occured, nobody lost a job, and the government created new jobs in
government, of course, off the taxpayers's dime.
Edited cuz I didn't communicate well enough, and, of course, some will say I haven't even now, and others will say I didn't comminicate anything
worthwhile at all. lol. Anyone, did I miss a point? Did I just say "neo-con" talking points, etc.?
This is after all, just opinion on my part because, well, I wasn't educated at Harvard or Yale, or, I dunno, name your school. lol.
[edit on 15-6-2009 by kyred]