Obama tells AMA 'America may go the way of GM', page 2
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 07:27 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


You are beating your head against a brick wall, Proto, until they live it

They will not get it.

Live and learn.


reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 07:39 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Sestias




The excellence of medical care would not be affected by Obama's healthcare plan.


What exactly are you basing that on besides your own wishful thinking?

Are you a qualified National Health Care consultant for democratic nations that have previously implemented Obama's health care plan?

Seriously now, lay off the Kool Aide those artificial sweetners can lead to cancer!


reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 07:41 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


You are beating your head against a brick wall, Proto, until they live it

They will not get it.

Live and learn.


I have an exceptionally strong head and thick skull though! It's not so hard when you are dealing with the little pig who made his house of straw!

My hayfever is killing me though!

Thanks Stormdancer.


reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 07:58 PM by Jakes51
I hear Bush did this, Bush did that. However, the man is gone and now we have to deal with Obama's policies which are walking the fine line to socialism and fascism.

He is willing to take great liberties with our tax dollars to do it. Where are the checks and balances if they were in place these types of dictatorial rhetoric would be squashed immediately. Our people in the legislature really need to take a good hard look at what this man is advocating and vote his garbage out. Let him threaten moan and groan, but our very country and traditions are at stake. Make no mistake, if we continue on this path we will be paupers drinking out of the gutter and sleeping under the overpass. We are going bankrupt or are already there and they are keeping a tight lid on it. It's an illusion that a business is to big to fail and shame on the politicians for spreading that message.

In capitalism businesses rise and fall it is just how it works. When profits are coming they thrive when they are decreasing or fall short they fail. It hurts a lot of people: losing jobs, homes, livelihoods, careers, but we can all learn from it become stronger in the process. Mr. President we are now seeing that pumping money into a rotten decrepit system is futile and now is time to let the cards fall were they may and move on and get better. Capitalism has worked for centuries and it has it's ups and downs but it is the only way the little guy has a chance to better himself.

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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 08:12 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Jakes51


The problem here for the most part is these "Business that are too big to fail" are in fact not failing, but repositioning themselves in a 'Redistribution of Wealth' to dominate foreign markets but utilizing their cheaper labor and cheaper resources to manufacture there and develop markets there that have far more potential buyers than the United States market does.

20 years ago 1 in 100 Chinese had a car, their own 20 year plan before American Corporations took over China was for everyone to have a bicycle in 20 years.

Last year China bought more cars than America did and would it surprise you to know that the majority of the cars the Chinese purchased where made by GM China.

Meanwhile I just went out and bought a bicycle lol, because I am now being told that the reason the price for gasoline keeps going up even though the demand keeps going down for it domestically is because oil is piling up in the storage facilities and the oil companies now have to build more oil facilities at the consumer's expense. They have the nerve to say this is absolutely vital because if they don't build more storage facilities they will have to buy less oil, and if they buy less oil, oil producing nations will drop their production and then when the recession is over and demand resumes domestically there will be shortages that lead to higher prices!

So much of what the government is doing right now is having the tax payer fund insanely wealthy American Oligarchs in expanding their markets by hiring foreign labor, manufacturing in foreign countries, paying foreign workers, and selling their foriegn made products to them all at the expense of America.

That is what the actual 'redistribution of wealth' really is, giving our jobs away and abandoning Americans because we already have enough flat screen TV's, computers and auto mobiles to make our business less desirable than some other nations'.

It would almost be tolerable if they weren't doing all this with American Tax payer money.

To get away with all this the Oligarchs really believe that if they simply tax us with such a burden that we can do nothing but struggle to fead and house ourselves we won't have the time or inclination to resist this madness.

I think they are wrong!



reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 08:15 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by amari



I agree with Obama telling the AMA 'America may go the way of GM' and as long as he is running the show I whole hardily believe what he says.


My friend he did not say the AMA was going to go the way of GM he said America itself was going to go the way of GM.

Meaning that unless the American Medical Association gets on board for a way for both government and private insurers to cut health care costs...America the nation will go terminally bankrupt and potentially cease to exist.


reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 08:29 PM by Jakes51
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Wow, what you are saying is very telling and intriguing. What you are claiming is that our own government is selling us down the river so these fat cats can reposition themselves over seas while the Americans continue into the spiral of degradation. I'm truly outraged by what I read on your post. They are committing treason no doubt about it. I'm in no way trying to sound like a protectionist when comes down to international business but to work overtime to prop holdings over seas while the ones at home fall apart is ludicrous. Were treason comes in is that the government is using tax payer dollars to do this and it is being orchestrated by our elected officials who are supposed to have our best interests in mind. Very interesting post and flagged.


reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 08:34 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by daddyroo45




Good thought. How long after Government insurance is the only thing we can get ,will mandatory proceedures and vaccinations and drug/DNA testing be done?


Not long enough in my humble oppinion this is not an area that we need the government controlling.

What the government did not understand in the 1930's and the government still does not understand today is what corrects markets that are out of wack is themselves.

prices don't need to be artificially lowered or raised and subsidies don't need to be made, supply and demand will weed out over time any problems with a system as long as it's not artificially tampered with and that's what the government does they tamper with things to create slow painful messy expensive deaths in the market place instead of relatively quick and clean ones.

Government ideally has such a simple job, build safe roads to where people want to go. Make them secure from highway men so people can securely travel them. Maintain an adequate military to defend us against foreign agressors not maintain an expensive and useless far flung empire for the sake of other nations. Arbitrate and resolve and reconcile disputes between states and citizens.

How the heck it has grown into this nearly all pervasive monstrousity is beyond the imagination and pale, that it wants to keep growing...

Someone get the wooden stake and I will grab the hammer because the garlic does not seem to be working anymore!
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