I like the model of St. Jude Children's Hospital as an example. Shriners is another good one. Charitable institutions are best suited to provide discounted or free care to those who can not afford it.

The government has no business being involved in your health care choices. If the government which is the people have to foot the bill then it makes everyone poorer including the working poor and the middle class.

Give Dr.s a tax break for donating services at a discount if you want the government involved. Don't make it a mandatory tax increase for everyone and further bloat the already bloated and inefficient system.

This entire line of thinking is the something for nothing attitude. This whole we will just print all the money we need to pay for everything kind of attitude has bankrupted the United States and it is attitudes like this that will bring this nation to its knees. We already have over 50 trillion in obligations we can not pay.

Universal health care will simply bring on the demise of the US that much faster.

Also what about all the money insurance companies or the government has to pay out for people who smoke until they get lung cancer, or eat until they are obese, or drink until their liver explodes? I say maybe we help out for a bit, but once it gets past a certain stage it comes out of their pocket or they are just left to die. Its not like they didnt know better. I say we just tell them sorry about your luck, Chuck.. Adios, your a ghost!

[edit on 14-6-2009 by grapesofraft]

I am surprised by these comments. Every human on this earth should have healthcare, no charge. Work work work work, money money money. I believe these words have taken over your minds. Just take a look at the technology we have today. No one should be suffering. No man, woman, child, dog or cat.

It's a shame we can't get passed war, the color of ones skin, looks, the list goes on. Another 25 years and change will come, the current generations need to die off, may sound cruel but time will eventually solve everything. The greedy money power hungry 'elites' need to disappear.

Originally posted by 3Rotary
I am surprised by these comments. Every human on this earth should have healthcare, no charge. Work work work work, money money money. I believe these words have taken over your minds. Just take a look at the technology we have today. No one should be suffering. No man, woman, child, dog or cat.

It's a shame we can't get passed war, the color of ones skin, looks, the list goes on. Another 25 years and change will come, the current generations need to die off, may sound cruel but time will eventually solve everything. The greedy money power hungry 'elites' need to disappear.

Actually some places have tried that approach.. China, Cuba, USSR, N Korea, . . . .
Sadly we ain't that evolved yet.

Yes it is a basic human right, along with suitable and attractive housing, land and adequate food and nutrition. This dog eat dog, fascist, patriarchal primitive negative world has to end and ensure its a win/win for everyone, the vulnerable are helped and provided for equally, and everyone helps each other out. Period.