Top 10 Reasons People Hate Americans, page 2


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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:28 PM by stumason
reply to post by Bong Sau



I didn't. What are you on? Show me where I "claimed otherwise" or "dropped myself in it?"



reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:32 PM by Bong Sau
Originally posted by stumason
reply to
post by Bong Sau



I didn't. What are you on? Show me where I "claimed otherwise" or "dropped myself in it?"

Sorry Bro.
I just hit 'quote' on the wrong post!
Apologies.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:36 PM by constantwonder
reply to post by Bong Sau



Who invented television? A call for the inventor brings forth an army. So-called inventors cover the globe. The fact is that television is a compound invention. It evolved over decades. No one man could or did invent the whole contraption. Instead, many contributed to the art. The list includes Nipkow, Braun, Rosing, Jenkins, Baird, Sanabria, Mihali, Takayangi, Belin... And probably thousands more. All of these inventors deserve our admiration. They won't get it. Instead, most people like to associate an invention with one man. If he's an unforgettable character, so much the better. Enter John Logie Baird.


www.hawestv.com...

cant say i agree with you. baird had some tv firsts but didnt invent the tv

but thats not the debate really. . . i just want to understand why we are the object of your disdain. Surely its not because credit isnt given to some contributors of inventions. . . .that seems awfully petty imo

as does saying we have "piss weak beer" "big hot dogs" and "overpayed athletes" as another poster did

lovely reasons to dislike people and look down upon them. . . . it seems to me everyone around the world is just as infintile, pety and egotistic as any american. . . .

you say things like your not jealous but you dislike us anyways because your better. . . whos ego is causing this hate???

i was expecting some real tangible america is hated because posts and all i get is petty weak hearted arguments that dont even seriously address the issue.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:28 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by constantwonder



First, I think that others 'hate' America, not Americans. The reason is simple. Our Government likes to impose it's will around the globe. The Iranians hate us for what we (the government) have done there. Our government was a willing participant in overthrowing the lawfully elected government there and putting the Shah (CIA puppet) in power.

This same theme can be seen all over the globe in post WWII foriegn policy. The attitude has been that there is only one way to do things, OUR WAY!

The average American has nothing to do with, nor cares about foriegn policy decisions, instead concentrating on domestic policy.

This is why the Obama Administration's stance on foriegn policy is such a departure from past administrations. Listen and discuss instead of dictate and insist. We (the government) are finally getting away from the "Team America: World Police!" mentality, and you can already see evidence of a change of attitude by others worldwide.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:33 PM by Alxandro
reply to post by Ben Niceknowinya



The World Cup, what the heck is that?

...oh, should've read the rest of the post, it's soccer, a game so primitive, players have yet to develop the use of opposable thumbs.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:42 PM by Alxandro
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to
post by constantwonder



This same theme can be seen all over the globe in post WWII foriegn policy. The attitude has been that there is only one way to do things, OUR WAY!


Come on man, why shouldn't it be our way?
If it weren't for US, the entire world would be speaking German.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:48 PM by stumason
reply to post by Alxandro



A common misconception, by Americans at least. The war was won by Russia, not America.

By the time the Americans got involved in the European theatre, the Germans were already talking about defeat (it was first mentioned to Hitler in 1942). Also, on D-day, over 60% of troops and almost all the naval and a significant amount of air assets were British/Canadian. Even the boats used to land the US troops on the beaches at Omaha were British boats.

Oh, and about Football (Soccer as you call it), it is the most popular sport in the world by light years. A true World Cup that involves all nations, not your poxy "world series" type events where only American teams play.



[edit on 12/6/09 by stumason]


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:03 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Alxandro



And if it wasn't for the French, we would still be singing "God Save the Queen", so should we do whatever the French say?

On the other side of that coin, if the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbor, we would probably be speaking German as well.

Very weak justification for strong armed foriegn policy, to say the least!



reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:12 PM by chapter29
reply to post by Ben Niceknowinya





We automatically assume we're "the best."



Your generalization sucks a$$...


Those that follow the sport in ANY country know damn well that we (the U.S.) are out classed 10 times over...no denial there at all.


On Topic:


Your generalization sucks a$$...






reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:45 PM by Alxandro
Originally posted by stumason
reply to
post by Alxandro



A common misconception, by Americans at least. The war was won by Russia, not America.

By the time the Americans got involved in the European theatre, the Germans were already talking about defeat (it was first mentioned to Hitler in 1942).



So we can both agree on one thing, America put the icing on the cake.



Oh, and about Football (Soccer as you call it), it is the most popular sport in the world by light years. A true World Cup that involves all nations, not your poxy "world series" type events where only American teams play.



Another common misconception, just because something is the "most popular", doesn't mean it's worthy of being called the best.
Heck, just look at Obama.

BTW, I'm not saying I'm a big fan of baseball but it is changing.
True, America's Pasttime is played by Americans, but they are mainly Central and South Americans.
looky here


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:47 PM by Alxandro
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to
post by Alxandro



And if it wasn't for the French, we would still be singing "God Save the Queen", so should we do whatever the French say?



Wow, so France has actually won a war at one point in its history?

Amazing!


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:51 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Alxandro



No, but without the assistance of the French and Spanish, we would have lost the Revolutionary War.

By this logic, we should listen to and do whatever the "original' 13 states say, because if it wasn't for them, there wouldn't be an America!


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:18 PM by Drexl
I don't know about jealousy , I know a lot of what we see on tv here doesn't portray much to be jealous about . Lots of americans are shown in hovels and shanty like abodes . An assortment of wretched , illiterate and ignorant creatures . Often well over weight too . And of course , completely mad . No, I don't think jealousy is really an overriding factor . If it were , you'd get all these poor countries hating all nations of the western civilization equally, since to them , we are all vastly more wealthier than they are . But it is unanimously America , first and foremost, that is hated there too . I think , personally , it has more to do with ... for example , to name just three reasons ... invasions, occupations and deaths than it ever has to do with jealousy.

If you think it's jealousy then you must think you are projecting an image abroad that puts you in a good light and one that other nations strive towards . I don't think we are getting that image at all . It might just only be perceptions . Not every american , for example, is dull witted and fat, but these are the kind of things we see, and not so much of 'who invented the television '. For nations to be jealous , they would need to equally appreciate the virtues that you duly assign to yourselves , and we just don't see it that way at all. We do not hold you in the same esteem as you hold yourselves , so what you are doing, is taking a minset that holds the typical american in high regard and projecting that to an external point of view and coming to the conclusion it is something to be jealous about . Whearas , as indicated above , we are more likely to see the fat and the stupid rather than the free and the brave . You do have an image problem that somehow precludes the jealousy factor as a good reason for the antipathy shown to America.


[edit on 13-6-2009 by Drexl]


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:26 PM by Edrick
America is the land of the lowest common denominator.

The inventor of unrestrained capitalism with no checks, not even governmental.

America is the springboard for more unregulated multinationals than have ever existed (sorry dutch east India company, but America has more)

America is not a "Melting pot" of cultures, it is a Furnace that VAPORIZES culture, and replaces it with easy to chew, textureless, soulless, corporate societal GARBAGE.

And Americans are the absolute WORST.

Yelling that "America is Number 1 in the world".... PLEASE!



Americans are Stupid, know VERY little, if anything at all about the world around them, and are generally uninvolved in any aspect of reality that does not immediately revolve around this ME CENTERED corporate existence that they have welcomed with opened arms and wallets.


I learn as much as I can about human culture.... even the Evil, sadistic, backward ones.

I cherish EVERY BIT OF IT.

All cultures in the world are precious to me.

They inspire me.

They make me feel, that as a human, I mean more than whatever company I can subsidize with my money.

And they are all being systematically wiped out, and sterilized by this Soulless corperetocricy.

This "By Committee" Civilization.

This Focus Group Social Fundamentalism.

IT makes me want to PUKE every day of my life.


I was born in the District of Colombia, 10 blocks from the Capitol building and white house.

I am an American, and let me be the first to tell you.

America does not MEAN anything.

And it does not STAND for anything either.

IT is a Shell of a former nation of people that has been gutted by Greed run amok, and disguises itself as "Enlightened, Civilized" behavior.


Screw America.

-Edrick


reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 12:32 AM by constantwonder
Although few America-haters resort to terror, their simmering rage not only incubates violence; it also provides the moral support that can transform a crime against humanity into the opening salvo of a political, religious, cultural and economic struggle. Thus there is a need to understand it better.

Anti-Americanism's most frequent expressions usually reflect a mish-mash of grievances. But one can identify five types: politico-economic, historical, religious, cultural and psychological.

Politico-economic anti-Americanism represents a reaction to current US foreign policies: support for Israel or for repressive governments in the Middle East; the US's role in the Balkans; its embargo on Iraq and Cuba; the lack of support for the Kyoto protocol on climate change or for the establishment of the international criminal court. US economic policies also draw fire, whether for limits on imports from poor countries or for the use of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank to advance US interests.

Historical anti-Americanism has its roots in past US behaviour. In a column titled "The Last September 11", Ariel Dorfman, a Chilean novelist, reminds his readers that on September 11 1973 the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende, the Socialist president, was overthrown in a military coup backed by the US. "Both in Chile in 1973 and in the States today, terror descended from the sky to destroy the symbols of national identity, the palace of the presidents in Santiago, the icons of financial and military power in New York and Washington." Similar sentiments are common in many other countries.

Religious anti-Americanism is most virulently expressed by Islamic fundamentalists. In the words of Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran's late spiritual leader, "[Americans] are the great Satan, the wounded snake." But religious anti-Americanism is by no means exclusively Muslim. Roman Catholic liberation theologists, Greek Orthodox prelates, fundamentalist Jewish rabbis and US televangelists also condemn American society's "corrupting immorality".

Cultural anti-Americanism is stirred by the ability of the American way of life to influence and often displace local cultures. Satellites that beam US television overseas and commercial brands that attract billions of consumers also stoke anxiety and anger about cultural invasion. The list of American realities that jar the sensibilities of citizens in other countries is long: women's rights, sexual permissiveness, drug use, gun ownership, the death penalty, intrusive marketing, fast food, tolerance for economic inequality, racism and high incarceration rates.

Psychological anti-Americanism is fuelled by jealousy, resentment, ambivalence and crushed expectations. The seductive allure of American capitalism, freedoms, products and culture often co-exists with ambivalence about them as being economically or politically unattainable.


www.carnegieendowment.org...

here is a much better and more in depth anlysis of the issue. . .

i wonder if theres anything to be done about it or will it just continue until america falls or becomes so bad that we start to garner a little pity

sure we've made mistakes but show me a country that hasn't

their have been countless governments in almost every country that has existed that ahve been bad humanitarians worse financial planners and some were just down right degenirate but there is no big voice saying everyone hate them

perhaps its a perspective issue. . . if anyone lives in a country other than america and you here the world hating you let me know
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