2 Japanese Carrying $134 Bil Worth Of U.S. Bonds Detained in Italy, page 14
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:36 AM by burntheships
More sharp thinking from IStockAnalyst

I will say this here and now, I truly used to believe that there are much more important things to focus on rather than griping and complaining about the plunge protection team (PPT) and their machinations as equities or bonds were gunned in the opposite direction to your stance but now I am not so sure.

The reason for this is that we do now know that noted administration official have acknowledged the Presidents working group on financial markets (PPT), that the Fed is openly intervening in the bond market via purchases (quantitative easing), and for some strange reason late day gunning of the SPY's has become commonplace at critical technical junctures.

Go given this shameless intervention and meddling in markets (did I mention AIG, TARP, PIPP, TALF) am I to believe that another government, the Japanese, would never attempt to covertly or clandestinely dump something like U.S. treasuries?

Forget the idiocy or lack of sophistication in their attempt to do it, for that's exactly what they want you to focus on. These 2 with the "fakes" could easily have been the lambs sent to slaughter as the real mules got by. Crazy huh. Dope smugglers do it all the time


Doesn't a rancher in the Amazon take his cattle upstream, then taking the sickest of his herd and walk the sacrificial one downstream to cross the river thereby occupying the piranha while the herd crosses safely?

I am putting aside everything else I am pondering right now regarding this issue and ask you this; tell me what the hell is going on here because from where I sit, some out there think we (myself included) are either too stupid or too medicated to think for ourselves and notice what is going on.
www.istockanalyst.com...



reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:00 PM by endisnighe
reply to post by SLAYER69



The Japanese nationals have been released-fact
They have been cited as Japanese Finance Ministry Employees-not confirmed
The Japanese Minister of the Interior has resigned-fact
The Bearer Bonds have been cited as real-I believe fact
Who the hell would try to forge 134.5 billion dollars worth of US Notes
FACT the US TARF OR TARP had 134.5 billion dollars of purchases to complete a necessary purchase stated 4 days prior to the arrest of these 2
FACT the Main Stream Media is so silent it is deafening
FACT NYTimes this morning 6-26-09 spouted the same drivel of no information again and same fracking fabricated obfuscations as previous bull#


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 10:55 AM by mmiichael
Originally posted by Divinorumus
This comes from South Korea, so take it with a grain of salt.

Fake U.S. Bonds 'Manufactured in N.Korea'


It appears North Korea is printing counterfeit U.S. bonds. An Italian newspaper reports a recent mysterious case involving US$134.5 billion worth of counterfeit bonds has a North Korea connection. Earlier this month two Japanese nationals were caught in Italy allegedly trying to smuggle the bonds into Switzerland.

Il Messaggero says the fake bonds may have been manufactured in North Korea since the two men are North Korean agents and are believed to have been seeking to purchase weapons.




Admittedly speculative, who knows if it's true. Maybe.

Does fit in with North Korean primitiveness and it's known they have sent ships directly to Italy with personnel.

If true, accounts would be set up trying to use the bonds to leverage huge lines of credit. Unlikely to pass banking diligence, but probably though to be worth a shot.

One reason the US wanted this story ignored was not to give rogue governments any new ideas.

Mike


reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 05:39 AM by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by mmiichael


Some other ppl have a different take on that over at market ticker.

But at this point it is hard to tell who is lying, and why they are lying,
but any way you slice it, it looks very bad.

2 men released along with "fake" bonds ???

So who knows at this point.

Except....and this is very telling....

I find it incomprehensible that the Italian government released these two if they were actually caught in a massive counterfeiting operation with $134 billion in fake US Securities.

I find it equally incomprehensible that there was not an immediate indictment out of a US Prosecutor coming from such an event and a demand for extradition back to the United States.

And further, I find it equally incomprehensible that if the securities are in fact real, and Treasury is lying, that Italy would not impose the fine.

Only the latter scenario, however, covers what apparently has happened - the two "couriers", whoever they are, have been released and, according to some accounts, they took the allegedly "fake" instruments with them, and there has been no US indictment issued for counterfeiting the instruments.

Uh, can we have some truth here folks, because none of what is being reported adds up and my BS detector is ringing off the hook.

==============================

I'll take this a step further and say that fallout from this in the not
too distant future is the likely trigger event for the predicted
banking holiday in 120 - 180 days.

www.marketwatch.com...

Yes, I do not have hard proof, but my BS detector is sure going off.

Good Luck to you all !

[edit on 2-7-2009 by Ex_MislTech]



reply posted on 12-8-2010 @ 11:52 PM by burntheships
reply to post by the2ofusr1



Nice bump. Astute reasoning what can we do? We only have one real option, abandon fiat currency, aquire food, life sustaining items, survival knowledge, precious metals.



[edit on 13-8-2010 by burntheships]


reply posted on 29-11-2010 @ 02:22 PM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by earlywatcher
reply to
post by mmiichael



I seem to recall $2 bills in the US too though I haven't seen one for awhile. They were always rare but perfectly legal as far as i can remember.

They are legal but were regarded as unlucky, or sinful. Last time I saw them was in Cuba in the 80s, when the greenback was in use more so than today.
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