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2 Japanese Carrying $134 Bil Worth Of U.S. Bonds Detained in Italy

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posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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I guess it is taboo at ATS to "bump" things?

Although any rational person can see, that "bumping" is a key tool for truth, which must fight against a tide of diffusive issues.

So why can't we bump?

I am supposed to add something useful to my reply, so here it is: "This was weird, and it's been ignored by all those in power. When will we ever have actually helpful people in power, and I am speaking of those who oversee seinorage and coin to paper machinery?"

en.wikipedia.org...

You cannot just ignore if your paper vehicles are being debauched. That's just stupid.

You have to pursue, and find out. Because to do nothing, only accomplishes further debauching of faith, by the failure to address the attacks. So here is an attack, in an economic form. Either the paper is real and ties back to specie, or it is false and ties back to nothing.

All paper vehicles must a priori derive from coin, aka specie. This rule cannot be broken without eventually a return to specie alone. Paper be burned, but metals melt and get re-smelted.




posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Thanks Smallpeeps for highlighting one of the most curious aspects of this epic

WhoDunnit

For we all know that counterfeit bonds are fraud, and the SEC takes it seriously...

Bonds are "instruments" of the currency they are issued from.

www.sec.gov...

But yet these 2 men - Japanese - Chinese - Korean or whatever nationality they were - they were
released. Thats right...

Then the story just went quiet, after the Feds declared the bonds fake...

A real confidence buider in The U.S. Dollar right?

Hence why we see Governments everywhere buying Gold.

They all know that in the end unless your holding Gold, or other precious metals, its all a Ponzi Scheme...



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Note only is this story VERY interesting, the failure of mention on MSM has me going

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



It should be the top story on all channels!



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Yep. What's funny as well is that there is an overarching mandate on some domains, not to ever bump threads unless you controbute something new to it.

This means that the impetus for threads like this to lie on the bottom, as this one has done. One would say that the policy acts like gravity in this respect, the policy acts like a magnet keeping threads like this on the bottom.

Thanks god I didn't just say "BUMP" or post a picture of a hippo-mommy nudging it's calf toward the surface with the huge word "BUMP" overlayed upon it, because that is forbidden.

No, better to either add something new, or let this thread lie on the bottom of the topic-ocean of the IP network.

Uhm, so what is there to say? Well, the complete LACK says enough, doesn't it?

So the impetus is not on the people who would be asked to frame questions, it lies on the people who support the cover story and the policies that protect the cover story.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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$134 billion dollars

sorry but thats the limit of my own morality where it ends so to speak

if i had been one of those guards i would said hey now you got plenty we'll escort you and then give us a cut.

oh lets say 10 percent a piece and retire.

those guys got busted and lost $134 billion someone will be gunning for them.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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The trouble with this post is when reading the article it was written June 6, 2008. Therefore it couldnt have anything to do with what is currently going on. The question is what was the result. Were allowed to take the bonds to Swiss banks? Did someone confiscate them? Did the Italians press charges? Thats where this becomes interesting.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by redrose123
reply to post by burntheships
 


The trouble with this post is when reading the article it was written June 6, 2008.


Therefore it couldnt have anything to do with what is currently going on.
The question is what was the result. Were allowed to take the bonds to Swiss banks? Did someone confiscate them? Did the Italians press charges? Thats where this becomes interesting.


I have bolded the part in your post which is utterly untrue.

To debauch a currency takes years of effort. It means to debauch the very paper of worth, all flavors of paper must be ruined. So no, I would disagree entirely with your whole statement, that events in 2008 have nothing to do with today. In fact I cannot understand how you would even be able to see the set/series of events as being in any way discrete or separate. It more like saying, oh that last cannonball took of one of the towers but this next cannonball is a completely different event. No, for the event in a larger context is this: The event s begins whenever the cannonfire begins, each volley of cannonfire is not its own war. And such battles of ruining currency, take years and generations. That is why the corporate person is such a deft and nimble vehicle for destruction: They have extremely long lifespans, and are able to die and be reborn, while laundering their assets. The actual person, the human, cannot ever hope to compete unless they step their game to be 500-years in scope, like the Dutch East India Co. and the Hudson Bay Co and the Massachusetts Co and others which are still flying very very high indeed. Ah yes, it is almost as if real people are now irrelevant, only be becoming human resources do they ever gain any power.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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BUMMMMMP

[The extra M's are for Mmmmm, MONEY!]

Tell me please, can we get some images of these Kennedy certificates?

I know there are pics, if nobody searches for them, I'll do so and post them, but is there anyone on ATS who cares about anything real? Not a moderator or anything, I expect nothing from them. I mean a real person who can see that this event tells us a lot about where the real money is at.

Also, this speaks to Japan (Axis power) and their dealings secretly with our empowered leaders in the US. So this is history here folks, and again I'm shouting into the void, but can we at least see what a Kennedy bond looks like before we all go down the tubes? Don't let us die without ever seeing silver island! Give us a peek before the lights go out like JFK's light went out!



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Hi again smallpeeps,

The link to the original photograph in this story is still working, and is here:

adnkronos

This below is the actual photo from the story.


If I remember correctly, we had come to the conclusion that there were Federal Reserve
Bonds, and what are known as "Bearer Bonds" confiscated.

Bearer bonds historically are financial instrument of choice for money laundering, tax evasion,
and those trying to conceal business transactions

A Bearer Bond is a physical bond certificates that has coupons attached to them that can be redeemed at an authorized agent bank for biannual interest payments.



The theft and illegitimate use of bearer bonds has been the premise of book plots and Hollywood movies for years. In "The Great Gatsby" (1925), which is set in the 1920s, author F. Scott Fitzgerald has his mysterious main character involved in a scheme to sell bearer bonds of questionable origin. In popular modern movies like "Beverly Hills Cop", "Die Hard" and "Heat", the villains are out to steal millions of dollars in bearer bonds while misleading the heroes into thinking the object of their illegal activity is some other target

www.investopedia.com...



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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships
Hi again smallpeeps,

The link to the original photograph in this story is still working, and is here:


Thanks yeah. Totally useless picture.

Anyway burntheships, I am sure you agree with me, that this is all total horse shaznatts, that we do not ever get to see HI RESOLUTION PICS OF KENNEDY BONDS.

Either they are real (queue the posters who say they're real)
Or they are fake (queue the posters who say they're fake)

But either way, we will not be allowed to see them.

Wow, are there still people here who use the term "conspiracy theory"? There is no theory friends. I could mention the post JFK era of Nixon gold-standard ending and the coup which placed BushCo in the White House (and Rummy and Cheney) but why bother?

Why really, when this event is just dissonated past by all the people? Why really worry or think about Japan? Seriously, every thread on ATS is trumped by this one. Why bother wondering that Martin Anderson who was deeply involved in the Japanese financial situation, is sitting in jail thanks to Goldman Sachs? Why bother?

We won't be allowed to even see what salvation might have looked like. Lights out in 3... 2..



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by burntheships
Hi again smallpeeps,

The link to the original photograph in this story is still working, and is here:


Thanks yeah. Totally useless picture.

Anyway burntheships, I am sure you agree with me, that this is all total horse shaznatts, that we do not ever get to see HI RESOLUTION PICS OF KENNEDY BONDS.

Either they are real (queue the posters who say they're real)
Or they are fake (queue the posters who say they're fake)

But either way, we will not be allowed to see them.

Wow, are there still people here who use the term "conspiracy theory"? There is no theory friends. I could mention the post JFK era of Nixon gold-standard ending and the coup which placed BushCo in the White House (and Rummy and Cheney) but why bother?

Why really, when this event is just dissonated past by all the people? Why really worry or think about Japan? Seriously, every thread on ATS is trumped by this one. Why bother wondering that Martin Anderson who was deeply involved in the Japanese financial situation, is sitting in jail thanks to Goldman Sachs? Why bother?


No, we will never see up close photos of these bonds, I am sure of that.

I would like to explore the story on Martin, do you have an link so we could get started?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Here's a pic of the bonds they seized. They say they are obvious fakes.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

This is the link for the article.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships
No, we will never see up close photos of these bonds, I am sure of that.

I would like to explore the story on Martin, do you have an link so we could get started?


Okay, we agree on that. Hopefully someone can chime in and prove us wrong, as they DO EXIST SOMEWHERE. In fact I think as a result of this thread and what we may do, they'll just produce some fakes, so as to throw us off the scent. Well then let's see the fakes, because JFK is dead for sure, and we know he was going to take us off the Fed way and put on on the silver way. Truly heroic action! Thanks forever Jack! A shining star in eternity!

Okay so yeah, Martin Armstrong. He has written a lot, but what he writes is perhaps less important than the fact that he must write it from prison. And his nemesis is Goldman Sachs, a truly horrific Satanic corporate hater of human being. So I already like the guy.

Anyway... They are trying to portray Martin as a Madoff-type or a currency manipulator. He explains quite clearly that he is not. He also explains who is.

en.wikipedia.org...

Here is a good PDF and quote to get us started...



Martin Armstrong: The-Goldman-Sachs-Conspiracy-The-Real-Dark-Pool.pdf

[...] In marketing, and politics , they can manipulate the press by actually feeding
them stories that are sensational to divert attention fran the truth. When the news
will break anyway, the best solution is a quick defense of disinformation. When the
Bank of England called all the silver dealers together for a meeting in London in
early 1998 to investigate the manipulation of that market, Warren Buffett came out
that night before the meeting to announce he had bought $1 billion worth of silver
and he was not manipulating the markets, for this was a long-term investment. I
believe you will see that Buffett sold the lot for silver went to new lows after
that anyway.
The object, to defuse the news that would come out and prevent any sort
of an investigation that just may have revealed who else was involved.


As you can see above, Martin describes conspiracy to manipulate silver. I haven't read any of his work that discusses Kennedy, but he does describe a lot about finance. Yet in the paper above, he says conspiracy doesn't exist. So he does contradict himself. I look forward to debating him in person, and I will win.

Like many economists and smart folks, He says "there is no conspiracy of the Fed banks" and I feel bad that he hasn't researched the MK ultra events and the truths of compartmentalized personas, some of which come from Princeton as well. It is funny to me that he can see "some" conspiracy as above, but that he is too scared or misinformed, to discuss true horror like Mengele and the Mengele MK horrors. There are a lot of gaps in his information. I expect if he was free and could be interrogated, we'd discover more aspects of his inconsistency. You can always tell a person by what they REFUSE to discuss, not what they do discuss.

But I am sticking to my main point: SHOW US THE SILVER BONDS

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by DAVID64
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Here's a pic of the bonds they seized. They say they are obvious fakes.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

This is the link for the article.


Thanks for the link. IMO, that picture, and that article, is insufficient by any standard.

Also, if fakes exist, then what would make anyone think that they were real? We cannot say if these are fakes of something legit, because we are meant to be stupid and uninformed.

It is possible that this was fraud, and that makes it even more important that all US people would not lose this scent trail.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:57 AM
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Is it not possible, China, Russian and Japan 's goal might be to stop the US Dollar as a reserve Dollar? Of course that is some or more of the three, perhaps other Nations plan too. Dunno?, but seems to me ending the US Dollar as reserve currency will severely effect US business/trade/DOW/Interst Rates, and on and on, left to right.

Decoy



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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Okay so ATS exists for years, all these people here, discussing meaningless green aliens and SERPRO junk.

But when we ask for hi res pictures of the debt instruments in our country, which gangsters and axis powers use secretly, we are shut down.

The silence is deafening. I mean it screams more loudly than any of this media crap circus. I would say every American should be ashamed of themselves that they use paper debt instruments and do not know what is the origin of these things.

Federal Reserve Note is not money, but Silver Certificate would be closer. Certificates and Demand Notes are totally different. Yeah just like the dentist or the fiddle player, its all about the instrument.

Just ignore this historical event, and listen to the Executive who tells you to go back to sleep and let the "professionals" handle the government.

This thread is epic in its lack. One pathetic lo-lo-res picture of some fake stuff on a table? All we have is an eternal flame and a dead president, and that is all we will ever have, apparently. There is no heroism on Earth, and frankly, there is no REASON for any hero to show up, when the masses have no interest in the critical mysteries. Really now, who wants mystery? Well I mean Nancy Drew and stuff like that is harmless fun, but real mystery which leads to other deep and disturbing questions, well, that is just uncomfortable.

I'd say everyone who stonewalls, ignores or deflects this thread, and the issue of modern paper debt instruments and the killing of Executives who try to free us from debt slavery, should be interrogated by the masses. I am saying that all the silent ones in power, who feel itchy and uncomfortable when this thread bounces, will be placed under the lights, to answer for their silence. You will not be forgiven for your silence on these matters, and your lack of balls in investigating them. If you knew what was up, and you held your tongue, you will be held accountable. Well, that is my opinion anyway. I feel the impending power shift will not be happy at those who paraded all these media stories of zero-worth, to bury the real issue: Paper debt instruments versus specie (coins). Anyway, back to sleep, there will be no hi res pics of these Kennedy Bonds, now go back to Two and a Half Men, which I hear is going to be really funny, once Ashton Kutcher starts talking 9/11 trooths. Derp.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps

Okay so yeah, Martin Armstrong. He has written a lot, but what he writes is perhaps less important than the fact that he must write it from prison. And his nemesis is Goldman Sachs, a truly horrific Satanic corporate hater of human being. So I already like the guy.

Anyway... They are trying to portray Martin as a Madoff-type or a currency manipulator. He explains quite clearly that he is not. He also explains who is.

en.wikipedia.org...

Here is a good PDF and quote to get us started...



Martin Armstrong: The-Goldman-Sachs-Conspiracy-The-Real-Dark-Pool.pdf


Peeps,

Sorry for the delay in responding. Lets start shall we?
We could hold out hope that this may provoke someone who will bring forth pictures,
however I doubt that will happen. Reason why, this story hardly reached the ears of mainstream
news, and the people never took an interest in it.

As you say, they are too busy with Hollywood. However, since you and I are very interested, lets
just start taking this thing apart, and if someone pays attention, good.

The central bankers are controlling our political system. The same players are found over and over
again. They come from the central banks, such as Goldman, and they wind up working in the halls of government, not just here, but also abroad.

More can be found on Goldman Sachs here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Goldman has repeatedly tried to shut this blogger down, to no avail yet.

So, here we have in detail hundreds of articles on the details of Goldman's Corruption.

www.goldmansachs666.com...

Now some may say...how is this a conspiracy? the Government colludes with
the Central bankers and those in political power, and thier respective Corporations,
it is nothing short of dictatorship.







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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships
More can be found on Goldman Sachs here:


I dig your style, burntheships.

Well I would say that Goldman Suck is a post-civil war creation. Like Rockefeller family, and Russell family and other Rothschild-adherents, they got loans from Rothschild after the war, and that is their genesis. B'nai B'rith was created around this time as well, aka Masonic crypto-Judaism. So Rothschild is at the pivot of these events, as they are the crypto-Judean talmud masters of that time.

Their god is wealth, and they will sacrifice their kids to it. We need only observe Ebeneezer Scrooge prior to his ghostly visitors, to understand how this Rothschild Corpo-family will sell their kids into love of money. And we have to give them proper respect according to the moneychanger-pharisee ideals they follow; They are very good at moneychanging. The best, so far.

So if you want to get to the root of this, then it is necessary to understand the burning desire of Rothschild to A: Get their central bank into the US, and B: Create their own nation as a super-state to the US.

And so, point A, was accomplished bit by bit. First it was crypto-Judean Adam Weishaupt who was outwardly a Jesuit, but whose family adhered to crypto-Judean methods. In 1776 the Jesuits had just been re-surrected by their Pope. So the battle of 1770 era was regarding who would control "the new world". In the end, the crypto-Judeans won, via their Mason "G. Washington" who may or may not have been Adam Weishaupt himself. Also note that after 1776 began the golden age of US piracy with our first coin the "Pieces of Eight" becoming synonymous with the rum and slave trade and the end of the age of piracy on the seas. All of these US Corporate claims like Massachusettes colony and Virgina colony, were predicated by the ultimate corporate machine, the Dutch East India Co. as aptly portrayed in the "Pirates" movies. I love those first three pirate movies, they say so much. Haven't seen the fourth, I expect it says little about US piracy in fact. Actually "Amistad" is probably the best sequel to the first three pirates movies.

Well anyway, the COTUS says only gold and silver, but in fact the correct term for real money, is "specie". and I would say from my reading that in fact, "specie" can mean coins of other precious metals also. This is a key point, because some goldbugs and silverheads today (I do respect these people somewhat) will argue that only gold and silver are specie. But in fact, any coin, being both bullion and mint-product, is specie.

Consider coins. They are nothing but bullion, right? But recently for example, there were golden eagles stolen from some private party, and these were valued at over a million dollars each. Now how can you take some little chunk of gold, and inflate its value by affixing a seal? That is the key question of coins. Of course back before paper money or corporate bonds, there was a huge variety of coins, and they were called "heavy" meaning unsullied, or "light" meaning sullied, shaved, sweated, aka DEBAUCHED. I am saying that the key to all this is to ask yourself if the thing you call money, is debauchable. Because debauching the money, is the key to Rothschildian schemes.

So coins by their nature, have been debauchable, but still were superior to paper or shells or tally sticks, because coins can be melted back down into bullion. In essence I would say that this trait of "being meltable back into bullion" is the irreduceable component of the definition of specie. This means that all metal coins, yes even copper, since they can be melted back into bullion, are therefore specie.

Then let us consider that paper money by its very nature, is debauchable, and also cannot be converted into bullion. So therefore it makes sense that the evil tards who play this generational-game of centuries-long-planning, would eventually move us into the paper "legal tender" straight jacket. I may be mistaken but I think corporate paper like bonds, is actually older than the hand-held version called "legal tender". So corporate evil and money schemes via debt sales (aka bonds) are older than the very recent "minature debt instrument called reserve notes".

And so then this is the key question as to the Rothschildian removal of the Kennedys. It is known that the Kennedy clan is a powerful occult family, and one of the ruling 12 families who orbit Rothschild along with Onassis, Astor, Rockefeller, etc. So when Kennedy made his silver move and also demanded to know if the Dimona nuke plant was for peaceful use only (it wasn't), well, it was basically a suicidal move by JFK, he seems to have been willing to go all in against Rothschild (and of course House Saud and House Bush who took it from there).

Anyway burntheships, that's my sketch as to why this event is held under the waterline. Power seeks to conspire with power, for survival or for gain. That is a simple truth. Eventually we will dispense with this absurd notion called "conspiracy theory", because conspiracy is the water the whole world floats upon.

I look forward to your questions or comments, if we play enough good idea-tennis here in this thread and if the shills remain silent, then we may just force this issue and cause the mass media to bend their stiff neck and comply. Yes, your thread here could be the one that changes the world. And if not, hey, good effort yo!



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Mkay well to continue the above...

Tell me this: I referred above to the gold eagle coins which were confiscated, and which had been value at 1 million USD or more, per coin. Naturally, this is due to their rarity, so we can say that some portion of that valuation, is not related to the minter's stamp.

But if the Treasury, takes those gold coins which should never have been made (since gold was made illegal at that time) and melts them down into gold bullion (worth less than a few thousand dollars), then have they eliminated money, or preserved money?

If they'd allowed the ancestors who owned those coins, to sell them (or if these people had never involved the Treasury) then wouldn't they have millions of dollars of FRN's to show for it? So if those coins get melted down, then what has happened to them?

You see, this question is ponderable in both forward (melting minted coins into bullion) and backward (minting bullion into coins). In a way, the nature of specie, is that it is both bullion and minted coin, and that it's nature is changing over time, that is to say, there is no way to keep 100% good specie or coins, since as their value rises, there will be incentive to debauch them by drilling, clipping, shaving, etc, the bullion off the coins. Note that when you shave a gold coin or drill it, you get shavings. Now I ask you, are these shavings proof of fraud? Because how else does one acquire gold shavings? No of course they must be melted down to hide the evidence of fraud. And so therefore, all coins are merely bullion is a slow-entropy which will always result in them being melted back into bullion, eventually, at some suitable time.

So then we may ask, "Yes but since paper instruments cannot be melted back into true bullion and dross skimmed off the top, how shall we correct the debauching of paper?"

My answer is simple, and that is the method described by the Patriots in the US who are converting their FRNs at bank level, into actual money, aka coins. Because paper is only imbued with power, by those who carry it. So since most Americans think automatically that 100 dollar FRN is not debt, but money, then there is only one way to get them to wake up and that is education. By rejecting the use of bad paper, by stopping the volitional participation in it, we can "melt down" all these paper instruments and then forge a new instrument without DEBT as its core. That is the difference between these JFK silver bonds and Federal Reserve Rothschildian paper which is debt.

At the link below, you can read a document which was only released in Jan 2009 and which was classified top secret for 48 years.

[fraser.stlouisfed.org...]U-S-Foreign-Exchange-Operations-Needs-and-Methods-April-5-1961[/url]

Notice page 3 where the FRB explains that they opened foreign accounts (through the head of the dragon, the NY branch) so as to give credit to smaller nations' bankers. Notice also that the FRB account at the Bank of International Settlements was opened for the same purpose, that account being opened with 10 million FRB "dollars" or "credits" in 1931 and then closed in 1946 when the goals of it had been obtained. And yet Ben Bernanke says the FRB doesn't loan to foreign governments today or ever. We know he is lying, today, and that the people at the top, lied in the past as per this hidden document.

So when the metals-war was won by Rothschild, the Fed immediately loaned out credit (based on the Treasury which can only deal in coins by the way) to foreign banks.

And then in the post war era, you'll find that as early as 1941 the Nazis knew they would lose Berlin (as planned per the dialectic) and so they U-Boated their corporations and went silent running, funnelling their wealth into South America, the USA, Swiss-land, etc. I refer to "US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128" please see en.wikipedia.org... ...Oh and of course since Wikipedia is a controlled piece of crap, this Wiki page is full of lack. I just wanted you to observe that fact. For details on this report, check out Revealed-The-secret-report-s hows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU written by Adam LeBor who also wrote a book about this report.

Anyway, understanding how wealth and power work, can help us to understand why JFK was killed. After WW2, as I said, he tried to counter the Treasury/FRB/Rothschild debt-machine by issuing silver bonds based on more true money, meaning bullion. And also he demanded to know if the nation of Rothschild was building nukes for peace or war. This made him the martyr of this last century. After the Rothschild self hating Austrian Judean named Adolf Schicklegruber-Hitler spent his stupidness destroying his own nation, notice how Patton was prevented from taking all of Berlin. Yes, he said "If I just had enough gas I could take the whole city" ah but you see, the goal was to have Berlin bisected and dialected, then later re-smelted into one nation, as per the cycle of splitting and reforming. Just as with the cycle of coins being smelted and melted, as these cycles proceed. There was no way they'd let Patton take all of Berlin, no way in hell.

Note that Patton was assassinated shortly after he was used by his warmasters (Warburg, Rothschild, etc) and that is now historically known. He would not be allowed to prevent the dialected German two headed corpse nor would he be allowed to tell his tale as to how he was prevented from going into Russia. In fact if he'd been allowed to take the US machine into Russia, the US would have dominated the Earth and Rothschild as well, imo.

So then we can see the stage by which these Japanese gangsters (read: Yakuza) were convinced to accept silver bonds from Kennedy. Probably since we re-wrote their constitution and held the Japanese after WW2, they felt that by scheming with us and by abandoning their folly and joining with US schemes, they'd profit. In a way, they did profit, as of course Toyota is owned by General Motors. So these are cycles being described here, all of which are analgous to the coin, which has value as with the gold eagle, but which value disappears upon the melt, and which reappears upon the smelt. Just like happened to Hitler's nation. Yes Germany got melted and resmelted, but the result of it all, was the Rothschild super-nation, aka the State of Israel. So in the end, Hitler's biggest accomplishment was to create the Rothschild nation and the one guy who stood up to the post-Hitler powers, got gunned down cruelly. I wouldn't be surprised to know that the Japanese gangs still see JFK as being more honorable than say Hitler. I think it's obviously true, therefore the idea of JFK silver bonds is plausible and I hereby demand the US people be allowed to know the truth of their nature, and their makeup. and if not, then I demand we get to see the forgeries. Why else would we waste time on any other threads? This one has it all.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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i don't know

i always figured it was bush and boys trying too smuggle 134B from the us treasury too be deposited at the Vatican Bank
Tax free of course,

there even may have been some funny alphabet letters involved but then you would have too connect the bush family with those funny letters,,

and of course grampy bush was frd's go too guy dont forget.
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