Is the U.S. occupation of Iraq & Afghanistan actually an attempt to locate the garden of eden?, page 1
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Topic started on 9-6-2009 @ 10:09 PM by In nothing we trust
So now I'm wondering if all of the dis-information about the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan has merely been an attempt to buy the U.S. government time to toughly scout the region in an attempt to locate the garden of eden.


Genesis
2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

bibleresources.bible.com...


It seems to be fairly well accepted that the third river, Hiddekel, is the Tigris and the fourth river is the Euphrates in Iraq.



The second river the Gihon river might be the Amu Darya which is located in Uzbekistan and Afghanistan.



Could the first river the Pison be the Syr Darya in Kazakhstan?


Syr Darya

In medieval Islamic writings, the river is uniformly known as Sayhoun (سيحون) - after one of the four rivers of Paradise. (Amu Darya was likewise known as Jayhoun, the name of another one of the four).

en.wikipedia.org...


So what's going on in Kazakhstan?

Kazakhstan - The Most Important Country on Earth?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Have the Chinese elites played a complicit role by continuing to buy U.S. treasury bonds for fear that we would nuke Iran and stop the flow of their oil?

Have the Israeli and Iranian elites also played a role by thumping on the war drums in an attempt to keep tensions high?

Is it all an illusion to give the U.S. government time to locate the garden of eden?

Maybe they've all been played.

[edit on 9-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 11:19 PM by whiskeypoet
Without speculating on what God chose and with no supporting information that I am aware of Eden being the center of the universe (a nod to Copernicus, thanks for doing the math!) I would like to turn your attention to Gobleki Tepe (follow this link )

I have pointed you to a mainstream website (don’t crucify me here). You can Google it for a plethora of alternative links (and quite a few here as well I am sure).

That said, and with my diavolo avvocato hat on [devil's advocate] I would ask;

Should we not be invading Turkey instead? We have MOU's with Azerbaijan and Armenia for airfield usage, support Georgia in numerous areas, are allied with Greece, have a clear path via Iraq without mucking in Iranian airspace and have a 1.0 Carrier presence in the Med... In the immortal words of Yosemite Sam "We got you surrounded varmint!"

But that's just wearing my "che cosa se cappello" [What if? Hat.] I dont believe that mess... but it makes for good conversation. Star and Flag to you for wondering.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:26 AM by Desolate Cancer
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
could be oil would make sense as to why so much of it persist in the ME but then why would their be any in the gulf of mexico or russia or alaska so that doesnt make sense ...

I am leaning towards crashed spacecraft ...


So if you were a spaceship commander and you needed to crash land on a strange planet, where would you choose to crash land at?

Scanners say that the largest concentration of hydro-carbon fuels are located around the garden of eden, even though they are present in other parts of the world.

They knew that hydro-carbon fuels would allow them to rebuild their technology and leave the planet again. That is if they played their cards right. They probably knew that they would only have one chance at getting it right.


[edit on 9-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]


Hydrocarbons are some of the most inefficient and simple sources of energy, the key constituents of hydrocarbons can be found in abundance all over the world. Hydrogen in water, carbon in every single living thing and co2. They found everywhere around the world and where much easier to extract in texas than in the ME. As for your question on where I would crash if I was an et oil and gas would not be a concern since ideally would be well beyond this simple and basic dirty fuel.

There has to be something more exotic and rare than oil and gas. Something unique to this location. Which is why I come back to a very rare compound that is maybe superconductive at ambient temperature or maybe resonates in such a way that it allows for life to flourish around it.



reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:48 AM by jd140
reply to post by In nothing we trust




www.ldolphin.org...

This isn't from the history channel but it does show the satelite photo I was talking about and a before and after picture of that area.

It shows that the Persian Gulf waters flooded the area.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:02 AM by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by jd140
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post by In nothing we trust




www.ldolphin.org...

This isn't from the history channel but it does show the satelite photo I was talking about and a before and after picture of that area.

It shows that the Persian Gulf waters flooded the area.


I suppose the only way to really find out would be to get some boots on the ground and gather some intel from the region. Geological, botanical, ariel, lingistic, and archaelogical surveys, satalite imagery of the region and talking with the locals in the region.

I'm not convinced that the garden of eden lies at the bottom of the persian gulf. Water flows downhill, towards the ocean, not the other way. And the seismic region is around the caspian sea not the persian gulf.


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