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Kazakhstan - The Most Important Country on Earth?

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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:00 PM
Don't be so stupid I hear you say!
The Home of Borat, the most important place on earth ???

But wait a minute, hold your horses and flames, this unlikely contender for such a title sitting on the border between the European and Asian continents is indeed important in many ways some mundane and some quite extraordinary as I will show below, first some basic backround Info

Kazakhstan's economy is larger than those of all the other Central Asian states combined, largely due to the country's vast natural resources and a recent history of political stability..

Quite a regional player then indeed, and before anyone naively thinks "so what" look at the effect Afghanistan had on the world, and it is very close indeed.


extends from the Volga to the Altai Mountains and from the plains in western Siberia to oases and desert in Central Asia..

border countries: China 1,533 km, Kyrgyzstan 1,224 km, Russia 6,846 km, Turkmenistan 379 km, Uzbekistan 2,203 km

Extremely significant then strategically, it's five times bigger than France, and especially considering this:

major deposits of petroleum..

Well we all know what that can mean....

Kazakhstan, the largest of the former Soviet republics in territory, excluding Russia, possesses enormous fossil fuel reserves and plentiful supplies of other minerals and metals.
Major deposits of natural gas, coal, iron ore, manganese, chrome ore, nickel, cobalt, copper, molybdenum, lead, zinc, bauxite, gold, uranium

Hows this place run?

republic; authoritarian presidential rule, with little power outside the executive branch

CIA World factbook Kazahkstan
Oh dear!

But still is this really important? or is it just a conspiracy geezer reading too much between the lines?

China and Kazakhstan on Friday issued a joint statement, agreeing to further deepen their strategic partnership.

Both sides reiterate that further deepening of this partnership is the priority of their foreign policies.

The two countries will maintain and enhance high-level political dialogues, intensify cooperation in the fields of culture, economy and trade, energy, communications as well as science and technology.

The statement said that Kazakhstan reiterates that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China and the government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legal government of China. It opposes "Taiwan independence" in any form

Well that seems clear and fine, though surely Kazakhstan is hitting a bit above its head on the Taiwan Issue? Going against the US etc.... well anyhow it seems the Chinese are keen to have very close ties indeed:

The joint statement was issued during Kazakhstan's President Nursultan Nazarbayev's state visit in China from April 15 to 19 at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao.

English people (chinese News site)

That's this year a 4 weeks ago only, so you may say, well the dots will join and form be patient

It seems that even though the above for some time it has also had "Strategic" partnerships with the other world players to:

U.S. Envoy Calls Kazakhstan 'Strategic Partner'
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher said after meeting with Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbaev in Astana that the two countries are "strategic partners."

Huliq news

Well well that's a first isnt it?

Strategic partners with China and the US and also openly attacking a strong US supported ally Taiwan...mmm well it gets much more interesting, and this is even before the Mysterious UFO and high Strangeness stuff!

US NGOs want to ban Kazakhstan from nuclear technologies

Four non-governmental organizations in the United States have called on the Bush administration to ban Kazakhstan from nuclear technologies and from buying 10% in the Westinghouse nuclear power company from Japan's Toshiba.

Which was ignored and the sale went ahead!

The organizations' letter, which has been sent to a U.S. Treasury committee for foreign investment, also said Kazakhstan's nuclear facilities and materials were not protected, and added some people in the country were involved in illegal trade in nuclear materials. - RIA Novosti

Huliq News

Oh dear again, they certainly seem to be given a big leash by China and the US basically they both want them as best friends, even bending rules to achieve that...

Especially when you consider the fact omitted from the CIA worldfact book on it's true leadership nature:

Kazakhstan's scarce democratic principles continue to wither. In the past several years, the president has harassed the independent media, arrested opposition leaders, and passed a law making it virtually impossible for new political parties to form. In Dec. 2005, President Nazarbayev was reelected with 91% of the vote. In May 2007, Parliament voted to do away with term limits, thus allowing President Nazarbayev to remain in office indefinitely

Info please

How did the US react? Regime change etc... hardly:

he U.S. State Department says recent amendments to Kazakhstan's constitution, which include a change allowing the president to stay in office for life, represent on the whole a step in the right direction.

Huliq news
A step in the right direction, you can say that again the Far Right!

Well well strategic partners with an Islamic law based Totalitarian state in disguise...strategically very important any memories from history lol? The Shahto name just one and look where that led to... So why do China and the US love this country soo much when it goes against their main geo political goals elsewhere, as shown below, which following the Taiwan situation is very opposite in traditional world politics, and again very recent:

ASTANA/SEOUL, May 13 2009 (Reuters) - Kazakhstan and South Korea signed $5 billion worth of long-term energy and technology agreements on Wednesday in a move allowing South Korea to increase its presence in the oil-rich Central Asian nation. The agreements, signed during the visit of President Lee Myung-bak to the former Soviet republic, include deals in power, technology and other sectors, a Kazakh official said.


They have been busily courted have they not over the last few months... The main friends of China & South Korea wow, whilst enemies of Taiwan, and startegic partners at the same time with the USA and China....mmm strange anything else?

Dmitry Medvedev visited neighboring Kazakhstan Thursday on his first trip abroad as Russia's new president


His FIRST trip abroad....Well what did he have to say about it?

Medvedev stated; “Astana did not become the first foreign capital that I have visited as president of Russia by chance. The main thing is that Russia values the genuinely friendly and mutually-advantageous relations with Kazakhstan, our strategic partner.

Well wow that's pretty honest and open for diplo speak!

How did Nazarbayev feel?

President Nazarbayev went even further, calling the two nations bilateral links tighter than those of any other two states on earth.

Foreign Policy Network

Seems to be THE strategic partner of all the worlds powers then, and loved by them all no matter if they go against their other allies openly... so how about relations with other very important geo political countries? What's been happening unoticed by the world's media and average joe?
Recently over the last few months with his recent rash of visits and deals... well you may be surprised once again:

(RFE/RL) -- Iran and Kazakhstan both possess huge oil reserves, so it was expected that Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad’s visit would focus on exports of Kazakh oil through Iran.

Wow weeks after signing deals in South Korea (which cannot happen without USA!) China, and unlisted for space the UAE he gets a visit by the most despised person in Washington... surely he cant be "partners" with him as well?

But the most sensational energy news to emerge from the Iranian leader's visit concerned not oil, but nuclear power.

At an April 6 press conference in Astana, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbaev restated his government’s position that Iran, “like any other nation in the world, has the right to peaceful nuclear energy."


Surely much condemnation of the visits and handshakes etc from the US?
Not a word said about it, still strategic partners even I suppose if Taiwan is "repatriated" by China and Israel invaded by Iran or they get a Nuclear bomb... the plot indeed thickens...

I know as I looked into this more I became very confused about this little known, regarded and talked about country being so chased by all the world players, being in such a unique political situation with them, being soo strategically important esp considering as said it is based on Islamic Law and has an almost totalitarian regime... I even had visions of Nazarbaev stroking a white Persian cat in an underground bunker... well maybe just maybe as :

Nazarbaev described ties between Kazakhstan and Iran as "growing day by day."


[edit on 16-5-2009 by MischeviousElf]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:04 PM
Well it seems with everyone else on the planet to?

Last year, the two countries expanded their cooperation in oil exports, with talks on Kazakh investment in building new refineries in northern Iran to handle Kazakh oil....

Surely that will annoy them on the Hill how can they still be Strategic and close partners to the USA with this and Taiwan?

President Nazarbaev, while standing beside President Ahmadinejad at the press conference, praised U.S. President Barack Obama for his proposal on nuclear-weapons reduction.

On April 7, the Kazakh parliament’s press service announced Nazarbaev had extended an invitation to Obama to visit Kazakhstan “at his earliest convenience.”

Radio Free Europe

He is a piece of work isnt he?

He has as well meddled much in Georgia and the situation there and is very close to it in across the Caspian sea, which is why I first started looking into this, as I feel that is far from over, and only later in time will the true game be played out there, which will be a lot worse than many imagine, a good resource for that situation is here:
Georgia*Russia*Poland Missile Defense Shield ATS Thread!

So what at the end of the day, as I could carry on with similar examples of other countries etc, as the above alludes to just one more aspect to him and importance.... and seemingly unfounded respect and power, and an chartered behaviour and relations from a Non Superpower country and leader, not seen in world history since Hitler...

What has he got that is so important that he seems to have the ear of all, and carte blanche behaviour diplomatically?

The obvious is the huge oil, and mineral reserves etc.... and maybe pre Depression I would have put this down to that, but with the drop in demand and price for a very long time to come, and that he sells to everyone anyhow Iran, Russia, Cheney (he set it up in his visit in 2006) lol, China and has new pipelines being built now to all these countries... so this is not the reason, he does not seem picky who he sells it to.... what is really up?

Having looked and dug, historically, and also recently I can find no rational explanation for his status and power, or rather ability to have the ear and confidence of so many opposed parties.... it does not make sense from a "no tin foil hat" and mundane point of view.... I certainly would appreciate some other members ideas on it...

So therefore to conclude I wanted to share with ATS members and readers this strange pattern, and status that seems to have both an long historical basis and certainly has been very very frantic recently, if you could translate it to diplo speak he certainly has been "doing the rounds" or has "slept with the entire Football team" over the last few months... and I can see nothing that makes him pretty enough for them all to take for want of a better analogy sloppy seconds after their worst enemies... very strange indeed imho!

So having brought this to your attention I will say something from a bit of confidence having studied history much in my life and the way of the mind and politics, Watch this Player, this unknown man and country may one day soon or a few years down the line be all over every newspaper and news broadcast in the world, and in an world changing way the seeds are certainly there, if only from a non conspiracy point of view....

However as said no reason that they all fancy him soo much, so tin foil hat on and lets take a look at some other things that may from an ATS point of view explain the above!

I will just put that info and sources below and leave you to speculate and decide.... because besides the "normal" world of human relations, business deals and politics some very strange things indeed have happened recently in this little talked about part of the world indeed:

The five sun sky as videoed in Kazakhstan in 2007 and discussed Here on ATS

Is it because the Russian Secret shuttle Buran was actually based in in Kazahkstan? is it still operational?

Russia To Bring Space Shuttle Back From The Grave

Last week Energia, the state company which built Buran, opened its hangars at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan to show Western aerospace engineers that Buran is ready and waiting for relaunch....

Zorgon on one of john lear's threads

Or maybe that the Neocons have been at play in the region for years, maybe the Bilderbergs? And it is there hideaway when it all goes Pete Tong?

In 1992, Shultz, who was a board member of Chevron Corporation, recommended Rice for a spot on the Chevron board. Chevron was pursuing a $10 billion development project in Kazakhstan, and as a Soviet specialist, Rice knew the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev. She traveled to Kazakhstan on Chevron's behalf, and, in honor of her work, in 1993, Chevron named a 129,000-ton supertanker SS Condoleezza Rice.[20] During this period, Rice was also appointed to the boards of Transamerica Corporation (1991) and Hewlett-Packard (1992).

Wiki on Rice

Is it because of the Alien Diplomatic Centre recently like all the other activity released?

Facilities to be built within the complex will include a guesthouse, theatre and translation service. A purpose built UFO landing pad and checkpoint will be attached to the embassy.

Kazakhstan: Government to build UFO base and alien embassy

Maybe this sparked the above? Did they get one?

Kazakhstan Chief of police witnesses UFO crash into river!


And also just a few days ago seems to indicate recovered orbs or small craft....

A UFO incident that took place in Kazakhstan is being widely reported by the media in Kazakhstan and neighbouring countries including Russia and The Ukraine.

AllnewsWeb Australia

“It was at about 3AM. I was standing by my tractor when the guys started shouting: ‘Look, there are some balls flying.’ They were big and sparkling with yellow, red and green,” an eyewitness told Interfax news agency over the phone.

And further a local official is stating they are just objects from a plane or such like:

A preliminary investigation has failed to identify the strange objects, but according to head of the local emergencies service Aleksandr Ivanov, they are most likely “fragments of a man-made aircraft.”

However the following is very telling

The balls were found to pose no immediate threat to public health or the environment and were sent for further research to “a specialized organization.”

ATS 2 ufo's Fall in Kazakhstan

Are they the chosen country for first Contact?

Will UFO's not land on the White House Lawn but in Kazakhstan's Capital?

Is he one of them in the backround, or has contact with such strangeness?

Maybe not as outlandish as it seems given the following:

Kazakhstan’s government believes open contact with aliens is imminent and by being the first nation to specifically create such facilities they are convinced they will reap enormous financial and economic rewards. The Kazakhstan Government also see this as a chance to demonstrate their nations forward thinking policies.

Currently it is generally accepted that aliens are making use of an underwater UFO base in the Caspian Sea which Kazakhstan borders. Fuad Gasimov, the head of neighbouring Azerbaijan’s national Aerospace Agency has confirmed this to be the case and has gone on record

SF sentinel

Well well the base is there then, no wonder they all want to be friends no matter what?
So to surmise, something is very much afoot in this part of the world, on many levels, no-one is noticing it until now
, the revelations in the paragraph above are disclosure of sorts, very strong and from such an person.

So not being able to prove any of this, I would like to close with the further realisation that this man Borat
Is in fact the worlds best Psy Ops operative ever making us all think it was Shooting Bears, and Kazakhstan was backward and insignificant... Far from it indeed!

Kazakstan in the News Whats been reported by year

A Very Deep Analysis of the Strategic Situation

Oddities 9/11 Oil/Gas pipelines

Kazakhstan Embassy

U.S. and Kazakhstan snub Russia with new military deal

India-Kazakhastan developing Thermal Torpedoes

Kind Regards


[edit on 16-5-2009 by MischeviousElf]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:08 PM
Oh my "look how much insane effort went into this thread" Batman!

That is weird about Nazerbaev.

They've got UFOs, strange politics, petrol.

I would never, ever have thought that this country would have so much strange stuff going on. Ever.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:16 PM
a great post with lots of interesting evidence. i enjoyed reading this, thankyou.

i think it is very interesting how all these countries are cuddling up to Khazakstan the way they are. Usually, if its just about oil reserves, then someone would just invade them, so there must be more to it than that. Maybe the ET connection is what its all about.

very interesting!!


posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:23 PM
My company sends lots of techs to the oil rigs in Kazakhstan to work on equipment and keep the drives running. There is a lot of drilling going on. There are also a lot of pipeline jobs that will eventually become a 'hub' of oil transportation between the west and China.
More than one in five of the earths population is Chinese and they are industrializing rapidly. The Chinese actually purchased more cars than the US did this year. It will continue to climb and they will need lots of oil.
Kazakhstan is getting ready to reap the benefits of a good oil trade.

Well researched by the way. It will take a while to check out all of the links.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:33 PM
Oh dear.
Now Kazakhstan may have weapons of mass destruction so I think it better be invaded.

Hey Kaz' seems to be a pretty resource rich place, never get much negative press and they are building some ufo landing bases so thats cool too.
Just beware the greedy and look after the needy.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:34 PM
reply to post by ravenshadow13


reply to post by grantbeed

Yep guys something is not right about all of this, the recent activity has been huge, the strange goings on to.

The player Nazerbaev does not even look quite right either, which I know sounds daft, Borat almost looks more normal above
and you should never judge on looks but:

He is close to Rice, Cheney, trying to get close to Obama, Ahmadinejad , Hu Jintao(china) etc etc

Glad you liked it, hope people watch him and this area more, and try and link the dots, the UFO underwater base thing is very interesting indeed to.

Kind Regards,


posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:43 PM
its like he knows he has something that everyone needs. something much more than just oil.

if it was just oil, then all this guy has to do is befriend a few countries that'll be willing to pay $$$, not every country possible.

it is weird and worth researching more i think.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:48 PM
S & F
Thanks for posting this. I posted some related information on one of my threads here

The new Great Game

In The New Great Game, Lutz Kleveman gives us a fearless, insightful and exacting portrait of a new battleground in the violent politics and passion of oil: Central Asia, known as the "black hole of the earth" for much of the last century. The Caspian Sea contains the world’s largest amount of untapped oil and gas resources. It is estimated that there might be as much as one hundred billion barrels of crude oil in the former Soviet republics of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan alone.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:53 PM

Originally posted by grantbeed
its like he knows he has something that everyone needs. something much more than just oil.

Indeed the more I looked the more I realised that, I know a bit to say the least about Oil and world economies tec, on a thread here on ATS I predicted the jump in oil online before any experts practically to the day and dollar, its referenced on the greatest minds of ATS thread somewhere, just to support what I am saying this IS NOT about oil imho, with the current world situation...maybe so, but i doubt it very much as the gains are too far out on the timeline, and by then new technologies will have surpassed oils worth quite a bit...

If its not the sort of proven UFO stuff happening at the moment, with the press reports Russians inspecting orbs from a few day ago, and the revelations of the underwater base by such an high level person.... well then

He seems to be like the High Priest does he not, or at least has his ear.

it is weird and worth researching more i think.

It certainly is, and I hope everyone jumps in and digs with me to find more, I am sure there is much of it, you never find one ant alone and all that. I didnt post everything as many readers wont go into long long book like posts in today's worlds, and a new flavour of presentation by other members would help it be more balanced and flow better.

For example, in the recent Visit by Ahmadinejad discussed in the OP

Nazarbaev proposed a nuclear fuel bank be created -- and suggested his country could host the facility

Did he?!

Really kicking above his weight? Time will tell?

and also that:

A fuel bank would be used to supply countries with enriched uranium for their civilian nuclear power facilities, and thereby eliminate the need for individual countries -- like Iran -- to enrich their own uranium.


So he plans to become the worlds enriched uranium fuel bank!

Kind Regards,


[edit on 16-5-2009 by MischeviousElf]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:04 PM
i found this interesting article on khazakstans leader and the "one world currency".

this is crazy. when one thinks of NWO plans for a one world currency, the last country we would think of is khazakstan.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:05 PM
Wow, great post. I barely knew of this country before this. It is really something that all the countries just want to be friends with it. And really when it comes to these political games there should always be a winner or a group of winners. The only other thing I can think of is that it may be terribly difficult to invade due to terrain and location, so all countries are opting for diplomacy, nice guy (bribes) type of stuff. I read that it's terrain is varied at least.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:13 PM
wow, here is something that will interest you even more.

holy smoke. this place has the Masons, illuminati written all over it.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:14 PM
reply to post by grantbeed

Thank you,

Just one of the things I never added

Dig away guys there is much much more, a 5 web page open post would not have been read

It certainly shows something does it not?

Kind Regards,


posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:28 PM
I think with Russia at his door, they need to form a strong ally with someone regional - yet far enough away not to engulf it. China.

But on the surface, they need to embrace overtures from Russia. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

The US couldn't be relied upon the protect them because our people wouldn't support it. But we need to be a presence there because that's what we do.

As far as South Korea and Iran - I think it's time we realize the rest of the world really don't care about who we think should have nuclear capability and who shouldn't. I'm all for no one having it - so maybe we can make the first move.

My point is - I think alliances form on many fronts for many reasons. I don't think we need to throw UFO's into the mix to explain the political climate. That's my opinion - but I respect yours too.

Live long and prosper.

Edited to correct spelling.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by Tippys Dad]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:40 PM
What I find amazing is that this is located right smack dab in the middle of two of the oldest civilizations on the planet. With their "Alien Space port" Kind of makes me wonder if the global "Elite" are preparing for something and all this global financial shuffling going on is a way to spread the wealth around to make the Earth appear more united than it really is?

I say somebody start researching all the ancient text from the area maybe there is something to this 2012 deal after all! No I don't think its a "planet" but maybe a return trip of the ancient "Watchers" Hot rods of the gods

Here's a little history of the area I dug up. Interesting they are mentioned in India's ancient text hhhhmmm

Isn't this the route the supposed Aryans took?


Sakas in Ancient Indian Literature
Main article: Indo-Scythians in Indian literature

The Indo-Scythians were named "Shaka" in India, an extension on the name Saca used by the Persians to designate Scythians. Shakas receive numerous mentions in texts like the Puranas, the Manusmriti, the Ramayana, the Mahabharata, the Mahabhasya of Patanjali, the Brhat Samhita of Varaha Mihira, the Kavyamimamsa, the Brihat-Katha-Manjari, the Katha-Sarit Sagara and several other old texts. The Shakas are described as part of an amalgam of other war-like tribes from the northwest.

The founder of Buddhism, Shakyamuni Buddha, is recorded to have been a member of a tribe called Shakya or Sākiya. It is unknown whether this name indicates a relationship to the Sakas of later Indian history.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:45 PM

Sorry. I had to. S+F To the great thread though. Quality content.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by king9072]

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:48 PM
That was a great read! So how long you think it'll be till the US starts bombing them too? I hope for their sake they have UFO's as friends, they'll probably need them.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:51 PM
reply to post by SLAYER69

That is interesting Slayer, I have not yet researched much on its antiquity, Though I know a lot about the civilisations and history to the immediate south and East of the area. I suppose much is unknown or undiscovered about this area.

Lost too in the USSR days, thank you for a new slant on it, much to look into indeed, will like in the Iran/Iraq Ur babylon etc and recent apparent interest in those areas by the TPTB be here as well, thank you!

Kind Regards,


posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:52 PM
Of course there is UFO activity over Kazakhstan

The crust depth is right, these things either are directly from here living underground all along OR they simply live underground where ever they come from in the first place.

Kazakhstan is perfect, crust depths as deep as 50-6- KM over huge expanses of land (I don't think they actually need to be that deep) because the conditions here in the south west where I cave regularly are not dissimilar


really is perfect for them to colonize, sparsely populated, not much of a resistance from above, access to resources from under the ground as mentioned before...

I can absolutely see Kazakhstan becoming the first nation to in a way Fall to the Greys

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