I think that with the trees and the lamp post in the third picture, plus some weather data on the cloud ceiling for that date for that location somebody could probably calculate some rough dimensions for this thing. I, personally, don't know how to do that (I majored in geology in part to avoid to much math), but I've seen it done. I can't find the data for the cloud ceiling for that date, but there was precipitation in that area for the entire day, so that part of the story holds up.

It is not a the scram jet, as it would not be stable flying that low and slow unless it was coming in for a landing. The ol' scrammy can't power itself back up once it is coming in at low velocities if I recall correctly.

Judging by the lamppost, it is small. My guess is model (if it is not cgi, which I am too lazy to look into right now (brain is busy watching my cat lick itself)

Real nice pictures whats a scramjet 4?

Originally posted by spikedmilk
Very nice! In the bottom pic theres a lamp post. Is there a way we can try to size this thing?

Angular size is a function of visual diameter and distance to the object. Given a guesstimate of the height, we could use the proportions of the lamp post to approximate the size of the object.

Ashame the person didn't have a LIDAR gun.

Seems only pteridine has mentioned the different aspects. Think of the last time you saw an aircraft fly over you. How far would you have had to travel in MILISECONDS to get photos of the Port, Starboard AND tail of the aircraft?

This is staged, CGI, Model what have you. Unless the pilot chose to make three runs over the same wooded area to allow the photographer the chance to get his good side THREE times this is bunk.

Sorry, wish it was real. I would love to see a daylight photo of the SOB that flew over me about a year ago.

Originally posted by spikedmilk

Very nice! In the bottom pic theres a lamp post. Is there a way we can try to size this thing?

To calculate the size of something you need to know its distance.
To calculate the distance of something, (without the aid of reflection technology such as radar or sonar,) you need to know its size
or have relative angle measurements from two observation points. (triangulation)


The lamp post is not particularly helpful in calculating size because we have no idea of the distance between the lamp post and the object.

Originally posted by PowerSlave
Who flies a kite in the middle of a thunder storm?


Nice clear pics. I am betting this is man made.

Ben Franklin.....

and the guy who took these pictures probably.

Originally posted by dashen

Ben Franklin.....

and the guy who took these pictures probably.

LOL. Yeah, I wonder if he thought that by flying a UFO kite in a thunderstorm he would discover Zero Point or something.... You think he had a computer chip on his line in place of a housekey? :-)

These are not the original photos IMO. Can not analyse the authenticity of them, without having the original, unedited/unaltered photos.

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Originally posted by whiskeypoet
Seems only pteridine has mentioned the different aspects. Think of the last time you saw an aircraft fly over you. How far would you have had to travel in MILISECONDS to get photos of the Port, Starboard AND tail of the aircraft?

This is staged, CGI, Model what have you. Unless the pilot chose to make three runs over the same wooded area to allow the photographer the chance to get his good side THREE times this is bunk.

Sorry, wish it was real. I would love to see a daylight photo of the SOB that flew over me about a year ago.

Good point here.

Either it's fake or the aircraft conveniently circled the photographer while he clicked away. This would have given the photographer time to take a great many shots.

They are all remarkably good shots, suggesting that if they are genuine they must be the best of a series. I wonder if the person who took these has a heap more.



What bothered me most was the intensity of the blackness. Distant objects tend to fade into the distance because of reflections and atmospheric distortion. On the one hand the blackness could be a result of super absorption built into it to prevent it reflecting radar or sonar waves.

On the other hand, for a stealth craft, it's not remarkably well hidden, to say the least.

Looks like that ship from the first star wars movie.

Happy time! Second line!

In a thunderstorm I wouldn't be surprised to see a piece of cardboard flying around in the lower atmosphere, the image seems fairly two dimensional, the shape and texture is obscure due to the lightning and angle but to me it doesn't look like a UFO.

the craft DDEF isnt known manmade aircraft or staelth...though it does seem to be stealthy.. its too kinda boxed shape..kinda like flying a square plane...
My best guess, is its photoshoped...its way to low for any UFO ever caught on camera, tol be real...it has no other features visible, lights ect, being so close.and to me, it appears to have been drawn into the sky, not like it was blendid in. I think its photoshoped.

To me the object is way to uneven to be anything made to fly in the air, plus just by estimating the distances in the picture I would guess the object is no more than 3 feet across. I do not know what it is, however I am leaning towards something mundane, they are good pictures though.

Have you considered simply a paper glyder. Blending the two first images using the twigs as a guide you can see that it is flying a very close circle.
Will add an image asap.........




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My money is on a RC toy. It is an easy design to make fly and it looks at a scale that makes it about 2 to 3 foot wide which is a good RC size. Looking at the details and the clouds, that is my call.