Mystery solved: One Bible - 38,000 Christian denominations, page 2
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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 02:32 PM by heyo
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by watchtheashes


These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God...


(Bold is mine)

Because, when you really look at the rantings of some over 4000-year old disconnected arrangement of "old speak" you see multiple similarities to even ancient "beliefs"...this one, that I bolded, is a reference to the Egyptian god 'Amun', as translated by scholars.

There truly is never anything new, under the Sun. Same old 'creation' myths, invented by Stone Age people first, most likely...passed down orally for thousands of generations. AND, along the way, each storyteller embellishing and adding his/her (probably mostly his) own little spin. It is human nature to brag, to believe that you are the only one with the inside knowledge. This is the sad history of religion, in Humans.


I had a bet with myself, how long for bible "thumpers" to appear here...second post, 11 minutes...certainly a record?



[edit on 6/7/0909 by weedwhacker]


wow. if it is such a leap for you to think of maybe why bible-thumpers came here, then you're obviously an idiot, or being fecitious at the expense of others.

"the key to being good at basketball"

wow. look at how long it took for basketball players to come...i'm sooo smart.

I stand outside of public washrooms too. I know that somebody will come in, and use it to go number one or number two. There is the proof of my mental superiority. bwahaha!!


I guess we can all just sit back in the tidal wave that is you knowledge until it knocks us out of our seat. We'll just assume that the devil didn't want to pervert or confuse people at all, and that he would have left the word of God alone.

You're like an indigo child without a gift.



reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 02:36 PM by heyo
reply to post by helen670


The bible imo, is a sum of potentially perfect ideals and ways for oneness with God, however, it is what is included and what is not that is imperfect. I look around at the pharisees today and i can kind of see where Jesus is coming from when he was constantly angry at them. Full of themselves, unchanging in their beliefs, afraid of the truth. The mirror image of those they attempt to "save".


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:25 PM by Boogley
reply to post by notreallyalive


My honest reply is this - I'm sure you saw zeitgeist and what not, but near the beginning there is a man talking and he is talking about the "truth," and he says this: "Unless and until you are prepared to look at the whole truth, wherever it may go whoever it may lead to, if you want to look the other way or play favorites, then somewhere along the line you're going to find out you're messing with divine justice. The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from, the more obvious they become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free."
My honest opinion is that there is one truth and people try to interpret their way and this that and the other but you have to get personal with it, in my opinion, to fully understand it. You have to spend your time learning about God and Jesus and religion to develop your view on it. And there have been many people who have tried to push all Christendom under one roof, and it simply doesn't work. I am still a baby Christian. I'm still learning, but I'm thirsty for it so I love to learn about God and religion. If I find something in my church (I am currently not apart of one for my own reasons but I am still searching.) I waste no time in getting out of there. If something being preached contradicts the Bible then I don't believe in it. And I think that has to do with alot of what is wrong with Christians today, everyone has conformed to their parents or friends beliefs and they haven't actually done soul searching themselves.


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:30 PM by notreallyalive
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
To those who rant against the Christian religion I always say fine, that's underrstandable, but be sure not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I mean just take a look at the Sermon on the Mount and the Parable of the Good Samaritan and consider deeply the value of the Golden Rule, and what are it's implications, even metaphysically speaking. Why say, because organized religion hasn't been all that good for mankind over the centuries, that it's all bunk? That's absurd and a very narrow minded viewpoint. There are many rich treasures of wisdom in the Bible, and some stuff that's not so great. Not all Christians believe that the Bible is the innerant literal word of God, but merely that it's inspired writing, which possesses a thread of meaning throughout and is true to it's word, or promise whereby much of the OT is a foreshadowing of the revelation and the new covenant of the New Testament. Especially the New Testament is worth re-reading and pondering - there's something there of profound genious and of the farthest implications for the seeker and the searcher.


I agree! There are a great many wonderful and insightful texts, stories, viewpoints, and teachers on this planet. I'm not sure anyone on this thread said that we should throw it all out, but I like your point anyhow.

I personally find most religious texts which I've read to be valuable in some way. One the greatest things we, as humans, can do, in my opinion, is to attempt to find the common thread of 'spirit or consciousness' which is inherent in most religions.


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:34 PM by notreallyalive
Originally posted by Boogley
reply to post by notreallyalive


My honest reply is this - I'm sure you saw zeitgeist and what not, but near the beginning there is a man talking and he is talking about the "truth," and he says this: "Unless and until you are prepared to look at the whole truth, wherever it may go whoever it may lead to, if you want to look the other way or play favorites, then somewhere along the line you're going to find out you're messing with divine justice. The more you educate yourself the more you understand where things come from, the more obvious they become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free."
My honest opinion is that there is one truth and people try to interpret their way and this that and the other but you have to get personal with it, in my opinion, to fully understand it. You have to spend your time learning about God and Jesus and religion to develop your view on it. And there have been many people who have tried to push all Christendom under one roof, and it simply doesn't work. I am still a baby Christian. I'm still learning, but I'm thirsty for it so I love to learn about God and religion. If I find something in my church (I am currently not apart of one for my own reasons but I am still searching.) I waste no time in getting out of there. If something being preached contradicts the Bible then I don't believe in it. And I think that has to do with alot of what is wrong with Christians today, everyone has conformed to their parents or friends beliefs and they haven't actually done soul searching themselves.


The whole truth, the real truth does not END within the confines of Christianity!

I gave up Christianity, meditated for a few years, found that my core beliefs were in Tibetan Buddhism, and eight years later decided my choice is not to live the lifestyle of a Tibetan Buddhist monk. I am here to live as a human, and, especially NOT as a human confined to one religion.


[edit on 7-6-2009 by notreallyalive]


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:01 PM by Lichter daraus
reply to post by helen670


Last i heard The bible was supposedly the word of god written by man, correct me if I'm wrong...

PEACE!!!

[edit on 04/16/2009 by Lichter daraus]



reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 12:13 AM by helen670
Originally posted by Lichter daraus
reply to post by helen670


Last i heard The bible was supposedly the word of god written by man, correct me if I'm wrong...

PEACE!!!

[edit on 04/16/2009 by Lichter daraus]


Written by man, Inspired by God.

The men chosen for this task was not someone like you and I.
These people followed God and His law in the greatest respect.
They prayed and fasted and then did according to 'Gods Will' and not mans.
The Lords prayer reads....
Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name,
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done......Not OUR WILL,but Gods WILL.

Today man wants MY WILL and not Gods Will.

I'm going to insist, there is no contradiction in the Word of God,.

helen
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