There's nothing less British than the BNP, page 1
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Topic started on 4-6-2009 @ 02:36 AM by jimminycricket

Now we're being told the BNP might do well in tomorrow's local and European elections. Not that well, but they may send a member to the European parliament - probably their grim-faced leader Nick Griffin.

Anyone with half a brain understands why people may want to protest vote. Quite right too. You'd be slightly deranged not to at least be tempted after seeing the evidence of the last few weeks and the less-than-mediocre level at which mainstream politics is currently being conducted in Britain. But the BNP is not a protest vote. It is a vote for fascism.


uk.news.yahoo.com...

An interesting article here. Today is the day for voting in the European elections in England, and it looks possible that the BNP may take a seat.

I think the author makes a few mistakes in the way he writes, he seems to decry the nationalism of the BNP, while resorting to a little bit himself. He glosses over a bit of history, and as a commenter there said, appears to be wearing rose tinted spectacles.

I really hope the BNP don't take a seat, I'm not a big fan of the European system myself, but that has far more to do with some of the problems in the current system, like the way monies are distributed, and the problems of it not being democratic enough, I think if done correctly, It is a good and necessary move.

For this reason, It's difficult for me to choose who to vote for. Normally I'd go with the Liberal Democrats, but on this issue they are a little too pro-europe for me, but where else do I go? We've been backed into a corner here, where if we want to make a protest vote about the problems with the system, we end up having to get into bed with fascists, or morons (UKIP).


reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 03:43 AM by Nammu
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Check out the Socialist Labour Party - www.socialist-labour-party.org.uk...

It's Arthur Scargill's party, you know from back when Labour was a proper Labour Trade Unionist party. They loath Labour, the Tories and the Lib Dems.

They want Britain out of Europe, a properly ran NHS, no tax for those earning below £15,000 per year, troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and are very much against the bank bailouts.

I saw a party political broadcast by them and was impressed with their standings.



reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 11:12 AM by Nammu
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Good for you for voting for what you believe in moniker. And if anyone does flame you they have no right to. You're entitled to your opinion and your voice through voting.

I totally understand your point of view. We are flip flapping around with the EU and it should really be an all or nothing agreement.

I just don't want to see the EU turning into 'The United States of Europe', which is where i see it going.

But really, it all comes down to the fact we've never ever had a referendum on EU membership.

Voting for BNP or UKIP in the EU elections is definitely a wasted vote.


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:34 PM by moniker
Originally posted by Nammu
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Good for you for voting for what you believe in moniker. And if anyone does flame you they have no right to. You're entitled to your opinion and your voice through voting.

I totally understand your point of view. We are flip flapping around with the EU and it should really be an all or nothing agreement.

I just don't want to see the EU turning into 'The United States of Europe', which is where i see it going.

But really, it all comes down to the fact we've never ever had a referendum on EU membership.


Doesn't matter whether we've had a referendum or not. But not participating fully we can never have a full say in what the EU is to be all about (we're being left out where all the important discussions and decisions re interest rates and financial policies are being made, for example). Being halfway out, halfway in as we are now just turns us into nagging outsiders who doesn't seem to participate but rather enjoy standing outside and nagging and complaining about what we have chosen not to participate in.

I don't want the EU to turn into a 'united states of Europe' either, but the best way to ensure that doesn't happen is to participate fully so that we can have a real say on the matter.

Standing down from my soapbox now.
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