When Nothing Happens, What Will You Do?, page 1

reply to post by madhatr137

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lol that is true, the next end of the world date, scenario and endless debates will begin. 2020 sounds like a good number. I'm not mocking of course, cause why else are we here?

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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i will continue living in my hamster cage turning the wheel living for my 1 or 2 days off a week and dreaming of that vacation where i actually live in this life for a few days out of the year.

reply to post by madhatr137

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Lol well ok yes that is a classic thing that happens i admit, but i wondered if anyone would have any kind of revelation as to not believing in propehcies anymore. Don't get me wrong i myself have a little kit put aside for if anything bad ever happens, but it really is more a precaution and not based on any theory, prophecy or anything else.

reply to post by OnTheFelt

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I'm not doubting you, but maybe you can point out some of the most obvious signs so I (and others) know that I'm on track and not missing them.

I appreciate your help.

reply to post by OnTheFelt

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Please explain to me these changes, list them. You see i'm quite aware and worried about many things in this world, i do not have blinders on. So if you can make a little list it would be interesting to see what you consider to be signs of the end of the world. Because quite simply i think it's being taken to far by people wanting to make money off of others by selling them books and other things.

reply to post by getreadyalready

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Starred.

I am interested though, will the usual mass delusion of putting on the blinkers happen when nothing really goes on in 2012? Either it'll be moved until later, people will say it has been avoided for now somehow, they'll claim it was all a trick to lull them into a false sense of security or something else. whilst all the 2012 people who sold books, t-shirts, did talks and the like will be moving on to their next little scam, or sunning themselves in Bermuda, whichever.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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I think the more important question, from a risk management standpoint, is what will YOU do if indeed TSHTF in 2012? Those that have faith are preparing -- for better or for worse. To them they will be better off if something happens, and in many ways they will be better off if something does not happen. Have you seen the current way of life on earth? not too pretty... perhaps there is more than one way to live on this earth(like sustainably and happily).

If you are walking along just a-whistlin' away, and someone tells you you are about to step off a cliff, do you just say 'Nah, I know where I am going.' or do you stop and look around, because maybe you didn't see the cliff -- and they may have saved your life?

Your answer to that simple analogy is what will shape your future.

What if the growing number of ATS'ers is a sign...

What if the economic collapse is a sign...

What if the crop circles are a sign...

What if Religion and the Occult and Ancient peoples were right, and UFO's indeed exist and our increase in interest in those topics are a sign...

What if Quantum Mechanics proved the idea of GOD, and is a sign...

What if the Double slit experiment shows that everything is indeed just vibrations and waves manifesting from our own minds -- as Buddhism and other belief systems have stated as FACT -- is a sign...

What if 2012 is not the end of the world - yet still something we should be prepared for?

What do the Hopi elders think? I wish I could provide a link to this article, I got it through my university archives at school. If you want it all just U2U me, I have it in my email.

The Hopi prophecies play an important part in the multiform weave of traditional stories. The rich oral traditions, which resist orthodox or dogmatic interpretations comprise various versions and interpretations of the prophecies available from different individuals of different clans and villages. They are evolving stories that guide the interpretation of contemporary events. However, Kaiser (1991, 83ff.) has pointed out that the different versions have certain things in common. The most important of these may be the assertion that human beings have the choice between two ways of life: the traditional Hopi way and the way of the white man or Pahana. These two ways are also labeled the "path of the one-hearted" (the traditional path of balance) and "two-hearted" (the path of progress and imbalance). The traditional Hopis, who are at times also called "hostiles" or conservatives, see themselves as the stalwarts of the one-hearted path that follows the original instructions from the Creator; they see the Hopi Tribal Council following the path of Eurocentrism and progress, the path of the two-hearted. Another common assertion among the different narrations of the prophecies is that many Hopis leave the good path of the original instructions, leaving a simple and prayerful life behind, and follow the mistaken path of modernization.

The different versions and interpretions of the prophecies all state that this world will come to an end. The time before the end will be marked by chaos, confusion, fear, and suffering. Elders see the present-day destruction of the environment, the disappearance of plant and animal species, the World Wars, and the threat of nuclear holocaust as giving rise to fear, despair, and dread. Indeed, in their view the end may come soon, since certain markers mentioned in the prophecies have already occurred. One such marker is the "gourd of ashes" understood as the atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Another common prediction is that a powerful figure will return at the time end of the world. This person of central importance is called Pahana (also spelled Bahana, Bohana, or Bahanna) or Elder White Brother, and he was also present at the beginning of this world.

In all versions of the prophecies it is stated that at the time of the end of this world there will be a period of purification and judgment. The survivors of that process will receive salvation. However, few people will survive, and there may only be one or two Hopi persons who have not left the one-hearted path behind and who have held to their original instructions from the Creator. Those individuals will be the beginning of the human world that follows this one.

Another common feature among the different tellings of the prophecies is an understanding of time as marked by regular cycles of purification, marking the endings and beginnings of worlds. Future developments can be anticipated because of similar events in previous worlds. The time cycles are understood as determined by the Great Spirit at the beginning of this world; the stone tablets given to the Hopis were engraved by him and hold the record of the original instructions and future events. The first world was destroyed by fire, the second by ice, and the third by a flood. Purification on each of those occasions was necessary because the people had left the path of the one-hearted behind, did not honor the agreement with the Creator consequently became degenerate due to affluence and technical innovations. As a result of the materialistic or two-hearted way of life, they behaved in immoral ways. no longer lived with respect for nature, and no longer sought balance in the proper ceremonies.

The final common feature that Kaiser identified among the different prophetic narrations of the Hopi people is that the destruction of the world is not inevitable. Instead. people may cleanse themselves individually and of their own choice. This would mean that individuals remember the original instructions given by the Creator. Masa'aw, and they would thus return individually to the path of the one-hearted or the traditional way of the Hopis. This would effect an alternate transition to the next world.

Kremer, Jurgen W. "Hopi Prophecies The Way of Balance Is an Individual Responsibility. " ReVision. 23.2 (Fall 2000)

Time is cyclic, that is all 2012 represents. Fractal Time:



Fractals embody Esoteric/Hermetic/Occult principle of 'As above, So below.'

Check it out.

reply to post by beebs

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I am fully aware of all that you have posted. I am well prepared for bad things, i don't prepare out of paranoia that 2012 will hit just generally being careful. A few years back our water went out for around 3 weeks, luckily i had bottled stuff, i have a rain collector (for watering plants but can be used as drinking) and plenty of extra food. Granted we didn't need the extra food of course

I am well schooled in survival techniques, but that is more because i love practicing them and i have an entire map of many of the wild food resources in my area. I made that map simply because the wild stuff tastes better than anything in the supermarket and each year i would save a ton of money harvesting it. Actually i would sell some and make money lol.

So yes i'm prepared for any such event, i just don't think 2012 will bring anything because the future is not set and the idea of prophecy is nonsense. So i wonder what people who have spent ages preparing for 2012 will do and i'm interested in these people replying.

Although i have a feeling they will just make an excuse and jump on the next prophecy band wagon.

reply to post by WickettheRabbit

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I apologize for not giving a more detailed explaination in my previous post, I just wanted to dispell this continued onslaught of false 2012 prophecies, a la Planet X, Nibiuru, the end of the world crap that truly infuriates me to no end.

By the end of this weekend, I will give you a more detailed account of these changes.

For now though, here are some of the converging events (planetary) that will be starting or have already started.

1. Reduction of the Earth's magnetic field
2. Solar Maximum - a peak in solar activity on the sun, which scientist do think will peak in 2012
3. Intense earthquakes, volcanoe eruptions, tsumanis
4. Pole shift (the north pole will be the south pole, the south pole will be the north pole)
5. Schuman's resonance frequency is increasing and will peak on 2012

**those are just a few of the planetary changes, and as stated I will provide a more detailed explanation ASAP**

Human changes:

1. Increased consciousness
2. Ability to manifest desires, goals, thoughts faster
3. Activation of our DNA
4. Self Healing
5. Greater Intuition
6. The ability to use telepathy

**Once again I will give a better analysis on my later post**

Now here are some potential doom and gloom prophecies, that are inevitable IMO and will also converge during these eras.

1. Depopulation (from diseases, starvation, war)
2. One World Government (Google Type 1 civilization) **this does not have to be evil, unfortunately we have evil people running the world**
3. Nuclear War
4. Economic Collapse
5. Martial law

Some credible people on these topics:

1. Nassim Haramein
2. Ivan Stein
3. John Major Jenkins
4. David Wilcox
5. Greg Braden

Once again, sorry for the rushed post, I will respond later with more detail.

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