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Open the Camps - Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan

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posted on May, 23 2009 @ 09:43 AM
reply to post by GuiltyByDesign

i edited the last post i really don't know if they are genuine but a lot of detail put into each one.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 09:53 AM
Two of those 'camps' are within easy driving distance for me. I'll make it a point within the next two weeks of checking at least one of them out.

Obviously I'll be looking for fences, containment 'cabins', etc... what else should I be on the lookout for, structure wise?

I'm semi-skeptical about the existence of these facilities, as I stated before, but until they can be disproved for sure, I will not discount them.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 10:29 AM
This train of thought and actions of our government can only lead us to one conclusion. Our government is at war with us. I can see it no other way if the future is to be judged from our past.
Everyone should be aware of the 3rd id being activated and placed under Northcom late last year in preperation or anticipation of civil unrest. We should also keep in mind the predictions made by our world leaders of some "event", I dont feel like the "event" has taken place yet,also remember what Biden said about them making unpopular decisions? Could these type of decisions be what he was refering too?
What about states succeeding and something about mass movements of people? Either leaving said state or going to said state? Could martial law imposed after succession be the unpopular decision,push and push untill someone finally pushes back? Maybe falling into a very nasty trap losing all of our rights under martial law that only the president can declare an end too?
These are dangerous times for the simple people of the land,as one of our founders said, "These are the times that try mens souls."
I'll leave you with a very relevent speach of which I'll quote a part of.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 11:23 AM
*ring* *ring*
"Obama reeducation and development center, how can I help you?"

"Uh, yeah. I think my next door neighbor is a terrorist."

"How did you find out about this, sir?"

"Well, after I got my last batch of government cheese and clean socks, I was looking in his windows and saw that he had pinned an American flag in his basement."

"Well sir, there is really nothing wrong with that, although we prefer that the flag is put up outside."

"No, no. I mean the old flag, you know, the one with the stars and stripes on it?"

"Oh my Obamaness! We'll send a SWAT team and waterboarding truck right over!"
"Tell me sir, when did you see this awfull display?"

"I saw it two days ago, uh, why?"

"We're going to have to send a truck to you as well."

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 12:03 PM
I don't have time to read all the post so if I am repeating someone i appoligize ahead of time.

My question is how is this any different then the preemtive strike in Iraq or anywhere else we might think is going to attack the US (Iran,Pakistan,Russia,Lower slow bobia)

Bad if its an individual OK if its a country.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 12:05 PM
if a country has time travel technology they would be able to go back in time and arrest individual that would incite resistance, revolt, attacks before they even get a chance to think about such things and since they havent committed anything yet there would be nothing to bring to a trial, and since they wouldnt want everyone to know about time travel technologies the reasons for arrest become a mystery.

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 12:12 PM

Originally posted by merkaba93
Putting this out in the open like this shows a new boldness. Detaining citizens without evidence or trial... indefinitely.

Will you stand for this?

As I said in the other thread on this subject right here you already did.

Bush Administration Wins Appeal in Jose Padilla Case

Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen it determines to be an enemy combatant in the war on terrorism, a federal appeals court ruled.

A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, unanimously ruled against Jose Padilla, the only U.S. citizen now held as an enemy combatant. Padilla, jailed for three years without a trial, fought against U.S. forces in Afghanistan and was recruited by al-Qaeda to carry out terrorist attacks inside the U.S., the administration says. Today's decision reverses a federal judge's ruling that he can't be held without trial.

``We conclude that the president does possess such authority,'' which was granted by Congress in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, the court said.

You guys are a bit late to the party.

Where were you when they were testing this out using detainees at Guantanamo and with the U.S. citizen Jose Padilla?

Why are you surprised it is now coming to your backyard when the process of allowing the usurping of our rights started during the second term of the last administration?

This is not new to anyone paying attention, although it does vindicate those that were smart enough to sound the alarm under the Bush years.

Too bad they were in the minority and shouted into silence by "patriots".

- Lee

posted on May, 23 2009 @ 05:30 PM

That would scare me too! I have a family member that is a state trooper and they told me that FEMA has been coming in and training them on things. They can't say what of course...But they did tell me that if it came down to taking people's guns....that they (my family member) would NOT do it.

Hummmm...ponder that one.

As Charleton Heston said: "Out of my COLD, DEAD HANDS!"

Folks had better be packing a backpack ready with things they'll miss just being able to walk across the house for like food, water, medications and the "luxury" of freedom.

I am scared absolutely to DEATH over this!!

posted on May, 24 2009 @ 07:56 PM
reply to post by Raider of Truth

Thanks for the links. I sent them to my father so we know what exactly we should be avoiding. It's a shame to see so many of them built already and yet the people say... nothing. Well they can go ahead and keep being herded by the MSM and the govt. like sheep to a slaughter house (literally it seems) me? I'll be the wolf in hiding with my family.

posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:59 AM
I have been thinking that we would see increased evidence that we no longer have a multiple party political system. I'm not alone. It's not bad enough to have bad choices, we now have no choices. There is only one party and we are being tag-teamed like a bad wrestling plot.

Bush Sr. started us on this track as far back as 1981 as he was Reagan's controller. You will soon see subtle signs from Jeb Bush as he is primed for his run and we will have had the Sr Bush as NWO controller for over 30 years.

Following the attempted assassination of President Ronald W. Reagan, shortly after his inauguration, 1981, George Herbert Walker Bush, as Vice President, on a day to day basis, until the end of Reagan's second term, 1988, actually ran the White House. In 1988, Daddy Bush was himself elected President, actually Bush's third term. In so doing, the elder Bush was violating the U.S. Constitution, 22nd Amendment, restricting the President to two terms. - Sherman Skolnick on Conspiracy Planet

Daddy Bush and more

Clinton and Bush, together again...

It is odd to think of the two presidents seated side by side, chatting amicably about the events of the past 16 years, as they are expected to do, and about the global and domestic challenges facing the United States and Canada. After all, Mr. Bush set out to dismantle much of what Mr. Clinton accomplished, from balancing the budget to fighting global warming, even as

President Barack Obama has set out to erase the Bush legacy by reversing his tax cuts, prohibiting the torture of terrorism suspects, withdrawing from Iraq and rejoining the campaign against greenhouse gases. - International Network

Clinton, Bush booked for Toronto appearance

Conspiracy theorists have noted for years that there is a Bush family dynasty that appears to be in charge or play a major leadership role within the Illuminati. - Alpha Omega Report

The Bush Clinton Alliance

"W" secured the camps. Obama will put them to use. The back and forth bickering in the media is to throw the sheeple off. That's always been the modus operandi. Cheney is either in on the plot or he will be the scapegoat. There is one team here and they always win. The country shifting hard right to hard left keeps everyone from noticing the continual slide to socialism. It did not start with Obama, it started long before all the living US presidents were trotted out to support NAFTA.

Signing of the NAFTA agreements

And so dealing with Gitmo detainees will be the opening for detaining dissenting citizens somewhere down the line.

posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:23 PM
reply to post by redhead57

You're damned right. Cheney is there for show, keeping us off balance. If he's not in on it, although I think he is, he will wind up as the scapegoat for the Bush years. Maybe another well timed heart problem would send the truth to the grave. (Does James McDougal ring a bell?) "A shame but bye, bye Dick! You were a great American!" The point is they're all on the same damn team. Rupublicrats or is it Democans?

Obama never had a "Civil Rights" background. The sheeple were made to think he did. He was black, lived in Chicago (never in the hood though), hung wit his peeps in the black militant church, how could he be anything but a "Civil Rights" activist? He was there for show and for the votes that came with the show. He's the tannest middle-aged white guy ever elected. You enjoy driving your sardine can hybrid while he's snug inside his armored Cadillac. A man of the peeps!

posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:51 PM
reply to post by Raider of Truth

Raider, I'm sure you're up on this but others might need to read this. Good posts, thanks.

When President Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua, he issued a series of executive orders which provided FEMA with broad powers in the event of a crisis, such as the violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a U.S. military invasion abroad. They were never used. - United States Congressman Jim McDermott (D-WA)

Later in that same speech...

Criticism of the Bush administration's response to September 11 echoes Mr. Smith's warning. On June 7 of last year, the former Presidential counsel, John Dean, spoke of America sliding into a, quote, ``constitutional dictatorship,'' close quote, and martial law.

The McDermott speech of March 11, 2003.

Martial Law Concerns

I mentioned in an earlier post that Reagan was simply a puppet in office and Bush Sr had his hand "at the controls". The saddest part of McDermott's speech is that he was tipped off to this by reading an article in the Morning Herald from Sydney, Australia. Kudos to McDermott though for researching the topic.

Bush Sr., 28 years and counting. Watch out for the next Bush, he's on the way. To throw us off, this one's a Roman Catholic and a 4th degree Knight of Columbus. Pick a flavor, any flavor, the Bushes have it. Warms your heart, dont it?

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 09:27 AM
What's the difference between George Bush and Barrack Obama? One is white and the other is black. I'm sorry to burst some bubbles out there. Actions speak louder than words and so far his actions scare me.

This is only the beginning, wait until his second term!

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