Here's How Israel Would Destroy Iran's Nuclear Program

Here's How Israel Would Destroy Iran's Nuclear Program

www.haaretz.com

Study by Abdullah Toukan and Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

Never before has such an open, detailed and thorough study of Israel's offensive options been published. The authors of the 114-page study meticulously gathered all available data on Israel's military capabilities and its nuclear program, and on Iran's nuclear developments and aerial defenses, as well as both countries' missile inventory.

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Not a days goes by, that there aint "Iran Threat" at highest position in Israeli media - I would be so "fed up" to whole issue by now - starting to hope my government blows out them from the earth - just to get silence from this daily "breaking" issue...

Warmongering has continue for over a year now... And now we can read how they will do it.

Just quoting Elbaradei (IAEA), they are insane!

ElBaradei: Israel strike on Iran would be 'insane'
haaretz.com...

Israel moves to reassure US on Iran strike
www.presstv.ir...

Ayalon: Assad doesn't want actual peace
www.jpost.com...

US official: No new peace plan, for now
www.ynetnews.com...

"Shalom - Peace Brothers!"

www.haaretz.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 16-5-2009 by JanusFIN]

reply to post by JanusFIN

Because the Natanz facility is so important, the Iranians have gone to great lengths to protect it. To contend with the serious defensive measures they have taken, the IAF will use two types of U.S.-made smart bombs. According to reports in the foreign media, 600 of these bombs - nicknamed "bunker busters" - have been sold to Israel. One is called GBU-27, it weighs about 900 kilos and it can penetrate a 2.4-meter layer of concrete. The other is called GBU-28 and weighs 2,268 kilos; this monster can penetrate 6 meters of concrete and another layer of earth 30 meters deep. But for these bombs to penetrate ultra-protected Iranian facilities, IAF pilots will have to strike the targets with absolute accuracy and at an optimal angle.

Can't help feeling this is all so much disinformation. Why kick down the front door when one could waltz in the back door ?

Even if Israel strikes Iran, they won't succeed, unless they use the 40 tons bunker buster bomb that only a B2 can carry... that or nukes. Or a total invasion of Iran by the US.

Unless this is done, Israel will have to live with Iran nuclear capabilities within a few decades.

Anyway, there's no proof that Iran is developing the bomb. So please. And there are elections in June that could change the president, even if the mullahs are the real power... so even if they change president, only the rhetoric will change. I'm pretty sure the mullahs would like more to stay in power than to nuke Israel.

Regardless of Israeli logistics, weapons mix, or aircraft delivery trucks, one can be certain of one thing.

The Israelis never, ever (with the exception of Lebanon) do the expected.

Regardless of the tactical need, regardless of their limited capacity, they always surprise their enemies.

For certain.

reply to post by dooper


I agree... It seems too obvious now, how everything is expected to go.

I really has start to rethink their strategy - what options there are, besides everyones waited aerial bombing of nuclear sites in near future?

What elements can be used to make surprise - are we looking to wrong directions?

reply to post by dooper


Agreed. Never put anything past them

At the risk of sounding like a cheerleader. Israel could reach out and take those locations down at a heavy cost. That's not the issue. The issue is is Israel ready to pay that price? They will be looking at a huge loss. They will have to fight their way in, take the target out, then turn around and fight their way out and probably have to ditch in the straight.

That's a long way for fighters to fly for a mission.




[edit on 16-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

Sorry i would have used another source of information

Reuven Pedatzur

Dr. Reuven Pedatzur is a senior lecturer at the Strategic Studies Program, Tel Aviv University. RP received his Ph.D. in 1992 from the Department of Political Science, Tel Aviv University. He is the Director of the Galili Center for Strategy and National Security. He serves as a fighter pilot in the Israeli Air Force reserves as well as a Defense Analyst for the Ha’aretz daily newspaper. His recent publications include:

with Klieman A., Rearming Israel - Defense Procurement Through the 1990s, Boulder, CO, Westview Press, 1991.


The Arrow Project and Active Defense - Challenges and Questions, Tel Aviv: Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies, Tel Aviv University, 1993.


The Triumph of Embarrassment (Israel and the Territories, 1967-1969), Tel Aviv, Bitan, 1996.
www.acpr.org.il...

Perhaps a more equal study would have been more credible, but its good to the see how they work.

added : Could you not find someone else with far greater credentials in this field ?

[edit on 16-5-2009 by tristar]

US upholds Israel's nuclear position as long as Iran enriches uranium

This statement by a senior American official amounts to Washington's endorsement of Israel's presumed nuclear capability as long as Iran persists in continuing to enrich uranium in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions, DEBKAfile's political sources report.

It removes a major obstacle clouding White House talks next Monday, May 18, between Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and president Barack Obama and paves the way for an Israeli request to extend the 40-year old "ambiguity" arrangement approved by Obama's predecessors.

www.debka.com...

- No matter how, but not without USA, thats for sure.

Originally posted by dooper
Regardless of Israeli logistics, weapons mix, or aircraft delivery trucks, one can be certain of one thing.

The Israelis never, ever (with the exception of Lebanon) do the expected.

Regardless of the tactical need, regardless of their limited capacity, they always surprise their enemies.

For certain.

Is this how peaceful nations protect themsleves?

Irans President made a few speeches while in power,
Israel threatens daily no matter who is in charge.

But we must stop Iran because of their ambition to take over the world

reply to post by munkey66


Munkey, there are certain things one must do and then others that one must never do to win, and win consistently.

First, you never, ever follow an anticipated line of approach. Study Hannibal Barca. Patton. Alexander. Scipio. Dayan.

Another thing you do is to use multiple approaches from multiple directions, after multiple feints, and only then, concentrate force against that point you wish to overwhelm, and do so with authority, approaching that point from multiple directions.

You can get an understanding of this be studying Alexander against Porus, or closer, Grant at Vicksburg.

Munkey, to defend everything is to defend nothing. Whether a wall, window, pass, door, or road is defended, they are exposed to something.

A good commander, and the Israelis, always seem to have this something.

reply to post by munkey66


You really should educate yourself on what Iran is really all about. Not the people of course but their government.


I'm not saying anyone is any better, but they are indeed bat# crazy!

Originally posted by munkey66

But we must stop Iran because of their ambition to take over the world

The real question is....

Is the world ready for Iran to be a nuclear power?




[edit on 16-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

reply to post by SLAYER69

And I was once criticized when I suggested that Iranians were overly emotional . . .

Western insane asylums have more sane people.

reply to post by JanusFIN

Warmongering has continue for over a year now... And now we can read how they will do it.

Actually, this is basically what I posted on your other thread yesterday. Since it applies here, also, let me reiterate what I said yesterday:

I seriously doubt that Israel will strike Iran, for the simple reason that most of Iran's underground nuclear capabilities are well underground, reinforced by several feet of concrete, and even the GBU-28's, which might just barely do the job, would require pinpoint accuracy to be effective. In addition, there is the possibility that Russia has given Iran it's S-300V anti-aircraft defense system, as well as the fact that Israeli aircraft would almost certainly have to fly over hostile countries. The only other option would be nuclear capable missiles, as non-nuclear missiles would most certainly not be able to take out the reinforced underground facilities. Using nuclear missiles would be suicide, IMHO. Checkmate. There will be no Israeli strike. It is only a ploy to get the world to put pressure on Iran, which, BTW, will not give into such pressure. Iran WILL become a nuclear power, unfortunately, and there is very little that can be done to stop it.

source:www.missilethreat.com...

edited to add source of Russian supplying Iran with S-300V

[edit on 16-5-2009 by ProfEmeritus]

Yes a detailed report on the logistics that is released to the public suggests one thing to me.

Israel has compromised the facilities in question with agents working on their behalf and intend to sabotage them from within.

Keeping the war drums beating doesn’t just drive up oil prices it creates an impression that Israel’s only option is a direct open military attack and helps eliminate suspicions on the ground in Iran that the Israelis may have compromised the facilities with their intelligence apparatus.

A Chernobyl like accident at one of these facilities would not only represent an overwhelming embarrassment to the Iranian State but heighten calls and pressures from environmentalists and governments alike for greater nuclear nonproliferation controlls unless nuclear technologies are developed under the complete supervision and control of the IAED. Russia would also be embarrassed and the ghost of Chernobyl would only haunt them since they are the ones assisting the Iranians in developing Nuclear Energy Technology. The world would chalk it up to a backward nation that lacked the scientific acumen to deal with such dangerous and advanced technology safely who turned to the Russians who have previously proven they can do little better at times when it comes to safeguarding it use. Three Mile where? That’s ancient history non-relevant nothing so horrible, we know exactly how to safely handle Nuclear Energy here in the United States of America and contrary to urban legends there are no 25 foot long glow in the dark alligators at the Turkey Point Nuclear Reactor in the Florida Keys. They are salt water Crocodiles not Alligators so there!

This strategy of sabotage would also further turn Iran’s Arab neighbors against them because of the dangers to the environment such accidents can cause, and allow for stepped up efforts against States like North Korea in the future.

It would also in theory spare Israel any reprisals through direct military response or stepped up terrorist activities.

Israel could then also add this accident to also being chief amongst their concerns, gain credibility for taking such a hostile stance to begin with, and at the end appear to have been restrained for the sake of the International community even though they “knew better” than to not go in.

I am declaring an accident at one of the facilities that leads to the whole program being shut down, the withdrawal of Russians from Iran, Iran’s neighbors viewing it’s ambitions as a threat to them, stepped up regulatory powers of the IAED complete with new sanction strategies to deal with States rebelling against it, and the Israelis coming out looking innocent and wise and restrained in the end.


[edit on 16/5/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

[edit on 16/5/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

If we move on the assumption that they will....

As has been pointed out (Dooper), Israel's only military constants are uniqueness and winning.

Funny thing about constantly being at war with one or multiple countries, your abilities and tactic's always improve.

I would bet $$$$$$$ they will use methods/weapons/tactic's that none of us would ever think of.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Israel could then also add this accident to also being chief amongst their concerns, gain credibility for taking such a hostile stance to begin with, and at the end appear to have been restrained for the sake of the International community even though they “knew better” than to not go in. I am declaring an accident at one of the facilities that leads to the whole program being shut down, the withdrawal of Russians from Iran, Iran’s neighbors viewing it’s ambitions as a threat to them, stepped up regulatory powers of the IAED complete with new sanction strategies to deal with States rebelling against it, and the Israelis coming out looking innocent and wise and restrained in the end.

Sounds like a plausible plan. Of course, now that you have revealed it, Israel will have to go back to the drawing board.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Proto, you're blowing the Israelis out of their gig, specifically Plan F.

Now they'll have to go to plan G.

And you know what happens after Israeli plans A,B,C,D,E,and F have been exposed?

That's right Plan G.

And nobody wants to experience Plan G.

I can't even watch.