Hersh: Children sodomized at Abu Ghraib, on tape, page 1
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Topic started on 14-5-2009 @ 05:59 PM by Chevalerous
After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse.

Hersh gave a speech last week to the ACLU making the charge that children were sodomized in front of women in the prison, and the Pentagon has tape of it. The speech was first reported in a New York Sun story last week, which was in turn posted on Jim Romenesko's media blog, and now EdCone.com and other blogs are linking to the video. We transcribed the critical section here (it starts at about 1:31:00 into the ACLU video.) At the start of the transcript here, you can see how Hersh was struggling over what he should say:

"Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."


www.salon.com...

I started to look for the real reason of why Obama have stopped ACLU and reversed his decision to show the rest of the Abu Ghraib 2004 scandal and other controversial photos and video material which now are kept hidden & secret?

Is this the photos and tapes that Seymore Herse did mention - that they now want to supress from coming out in the light?! - we have many threads about this right now here at ATS - but no one seems to understand what all the fuzz is about?

Many think it's these old awful photos:

www.antiwar.com...

www.antiwar.com...

But according to Hersh 2004 it's a lot worse - Children sodomized at Abu Ghraib?

Could this be the awful truth they now are supressing?

Is this the smoking gun of the awful truth that they are soo terrified of? And, is this what ACLU wants to bring out in the open?

Of course! Why would they want 'The Average Joe Public' and the world to know and see these awful atrocities that were documented by video and photos at Abu Ghraib and other locations where severe mistreatment & torture took place.

The people would scream for justice all over the world, and want all the responsable higher command to take responsability for this crime

Soo if this is the content of the material that Obama now doesn't want ACLU to bring out in the light for the public, how can the naysayers & deniers of torture here defend this kind of actions & atrocities?

How can you justify such actions and crime against humans and the humanity?

I'm terribly shocked by this! if this is the truth? I have some difficulties to find words for it!


Lindsey Graham, Republican Senator from South Carolina, saw the pictures and the videotapes along with the rest of the Senate.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters, "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. we're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience.


www.cbsnews.com...

Apparently Congress knew about this since 2004. However, photographs of what Hersh described in 2004 was expected to be released by Obama soon - while I don't want the new pictures to be public! I think it's important that the information regarding this gets out there in the open -I don't know what is exactly true in all of this yet, but it sure is a lot more to this story of WHY they wanna supress all of this because of the ACLU's request

Interested people should really check out all the documents of this site: ACLU
www.aclu.org...

But all this together should be enough reasons for supressing the tapes & photos.

Let's hope that the information & truth comes out some day, so we can clear all doubts of these terrible tapes & events so the world can move on!

EDIT: Just to make it clear, I don't wish or hope that any US personal were involved with this kind of activities, and I now just want to have a neutral view on this and try to understand the evil behind it.

I understand that the subject can be very sensitive for many that have friends or family over there in service, but this is not about them or other regular soldiers who have served their country.

This is a about some few bad apples in a very specific situation & time in the history of this long war.

If I have offended you in some way with this thread? well! I can only say I'm sorry for this!


[edit on 15-5-2009 by Chevalerous]


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 06:55 PM by Chevalerous
reply to post by baseball101


Many thanks for the links to all those important threads!

I will start reading them later tonight!


reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 07:05 PM by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by Maxmars


Have you considered that I might just be looking for clarity?

[edit on 14-5-2009 by DeadFlagBlues]
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