Originally posted by antar
reply to post by prevenge
144,000 is what percentage of 6 billion?
But again, the 144,000 may very well not be an exact amount...
at least an exact amount of PEOPLE
It, like what I'm saying of "The Lamb" being the "standing wave(s)" that their DNA "follows" or "sings to" ..
144,000 couples of musicians...
or say.. a numbering of something ABOUT them...
And it could very well be multitudes beyond 144,000 people, from every race, "tribe" etc..
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the
tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon
twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from
the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
A Multitude from the Tribulation
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count,
So if we expand on this thought, we can see either they're talking about 2 specifically different groups of people...
they're talking about ONE group of people (the multitudes which no one could count) that is described
as "the 144,000" by using that number
as a more abstract concept describing a specific attribute of they, not being the amount of individual people, but rather something derived from more
of an intellectual deciphering.
The 144,000 is divided into 12 parts, each part containing 12,000 of something
, that is referred to a "tribe"..and they follow an abstract
referred to as "The Lamb"
Where in genetics do we find groups of 12,000?
12 mega base-pairs (12 Mb =12000 kbp)
a base pair is a pairing of 2 nucleotides, the molecules that form the "rungs" of the "ladders" of DNA's double helix molecule.
12 base pairs = 24 nucleotides.
a quick Google search will find a mentioning of 144,000 bp (base pairs)
in Genetic Engineer Craig Venter's modulation of the yeast
genome with 144000 bp of DNA.
the fungal Yeast hyphae (clear strands) is suspected as being a close analogue to whatever could be used to describe the moving fibers seen in and on
the skin of people going through 'morgellons'.
"Byssus" is the biblically used term when referring to a substance that was used to create the fine linen
of that day and age.
†2. "A name formerly given to filamentous fungoid growths of different kinds, which are now more accurately classified.
The directions in how to create the Ark of the Covenant, and Solomon' Temple, use the term "byssus". They say to use blue, scarlet and white
byssus tangled fibers
to cover the ark with the tent of the tabernacle,
*tangled white clear red and blue and purple fibers are found in and on the skin of people suffering from what they have called 'morgellons'
people also experience crawling sensations, muscle twitching, vibrations within their body, jerking uncontrollable body movements and barin-fog... ALL
of which are consistent with an Awakened Kundalini:
a culteral/religious parallel to the Holy Spirit
the clean white robes of the multitudes who cannot be counted are woven from fine white linen... which in that day was always made from byssus.
the end lines of revelations allude to the importance that the EXACT wording of revelations never be changed, else that man who changed them will be
This amplifies the intended 'specific wording' of these writings to contain sensitive data not to be altered, as you can imagine, may extrapolate to
major mutations, abominations, if followed in the genetic method I'm speaking of.
the term byssus is used synonymously with the "beard" of mollusks, and the hyphae of fungi, ironically enough, the two byssuses, one fungal and one
mollusk were genetically combined to form a new type of adhesive "sealant"
(who gets sealed?
red white and blue threads... of byssus.
could the real
reason for the choices of the American flag have been based upon the sacred writings of the byssus threads that are used to
construct the veil of Solomon's Temple, and the Tabernacle of the Ark of the Covenant?
(purple is also used, but one could say that red and blue MAKE purple, so this would be redundant)
144,000 base pairs would equal 288,000 separate nucleotides.
If we use the number 288 as a symbolic representation of those nucleotides, those separate molecules..
then we can see a possible reference to it here:
1 Chronicles 25 (7) Number and Services of Musicians
7 Their number who were trained in singing to the LORD, with their relatives, all who were skillful, was 288.
could "singing" to the lord, be that which "vibrates" or is "entrained" by the rising Schumann resonance, and it's LAMBda ?
hmmmmmm.... the passage continues on the makeup of the 288...
8 They cast lots for their duties, all alike, the small as well as the great, the teacher as well as the pupil.
9 Now the first lot came out for Asaph to Joseph,
the second for Gedaliah, he with his relatives and sons were twelve;
10 the third to Zaccur, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
11 the fourth to Izri, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
12 the fifth to Nethaniah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
13 the sixth to Bukkiah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
14 the seventh to Jesharelah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
15 the eighth to Jeshaiah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
16 the ninth to Mattaniah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
17 the tenth to Shimei, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
18 the eleventh to Azarel, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
19 the twelfth to Hashabiah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
20 for the thirteenth, Shubael, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
21 for the fourteenth, Mattithiah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
22 for the fifteenth to Jeremoth, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
23 for the sixteenth to Hananiah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
24 for the seventeenth to Joshbekashah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
25 for the eighteenth to Hanani, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
26 for the nineteenth to Mallothi, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
27 for the twentieth to Eliathah, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
28 for the twenty-first to Hothir, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
29 for the twenty-second to Giddalti, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
30 for the twenty-third to Mahazioth, his sons and his relatives, twelve;
31 for the twenty-fourth to Romamti-ezer, his sons and his relatives, twelve.
so we see the 288 divided into 24 groups of 12 in this writing.
I can't help but look at that passage, as one of two possible things.
1 - it's talking about meaningless musicians in a parade r something, and how many relatives each musician had, something that not many people 2000
years later would really give a flip about.. it's pretty much wastefull to put that in one of the world's most popular book.
i mean think of all of those pages that that info is printed on.. in circulation now.. now imagine all the pages that passage was written on in every
that's a huge waste of paper if that information only just talks about some people and twelve relatives. nobody cares about how they were ordered in
their musical parade.
unless it means
2 - something SYMBOLIC and is relative to our survival, our intellectual, spiritual and physiological evolution as a species, since it's been one of
the oldest consistently passed down mass of information.
if that 288 is actually 288,000 nucleotides of the 144,000 base pairs in the DNA, then that's 24,000 groups of 12,000
or 12,000 groups of 6,000 base pairs. ( 2 nucleotides per base pair - (pb) )
or 12 groups if 6,000,000
from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches
were in their hands; 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
“Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and
the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
So we can postulate thinking of the "12 tribes" as not really "tribes of people" but rather groups of chromosomes that make up a specific genotype
that has been "re-assembled"
, due to the "melting pot" recombinant breeding
that we humans have done in the past 200 years in the United States primarily.
I mean where else in the world would except in the United States of America did people from ALL OVER the world, come back together in order to
gene combination that were spoken of as the "children" of Leah... a genetic combination that is most
to be changed into beings that can directly worship god, or "perceive" or "constantly experience" God ... God, here being the
interconnectedness of all consciousness , wisdom, energy and matte
[edit on 23-5-2009 by prevenge]