Originally posted by prevenge
Originally posted by FlyersFan
If you are talking about the so-called rapture .. there is no such thing.
It's completely unscriptural.
The rapture cult was invented by Nelson Darby in the mid 1800s.
It's soul-candy ... feel-good non-scriptural cult material.
no i'm not talking about that at all.
I'm talking about the Book of Revelations where the 144,000 "chosen people" come out of the "Pregnant Woman" (USA?) are taken away from Earth then Return Following the "Lamb" and take over the world.
so no.. this isn't about the resurrection that you're talking about.
oh screw it.
I'm not Christian i just like to cross reference scripture from all religions with open minded people in hypothetical situations.
from a researcher's point of view.
so no.. I'm not talking about what you're talking about.
link - nasb.scripturetext.com...
The Lamb and the 144,000 on Mount Zion
1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth. 4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.
and man it's just odd that the new commercial spacecraft is called "The SpaceX Dragon".... using the "Draco" rocket.
in reference to the next passage of Revelations...
The Angel, Michael
7 And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, 8 and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 11 “And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. 12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”
13 And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. 17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
I don't perceive christian scripture to come true magically. .. by a 'god' outside of us... I suspect that the events are being played out in accordance to scripture like a playbook... by the main actors of history.
The term "the lord" and "god" that had replaced the word "Elohim" in the bible after censorship and revision.. and I suspect that the Elohim are working with governmental areas to pull this all off... as the necessary steps that need to occur in order for humanity to physiologically and spiritually evolve.. but that's another discussion.
in any case it's fun to observe similarities.
But I'm not one to think that "God" is doing anything or "Satan" is doing anything as specific individual entities outside of us..
I perceive them as mythological symbolic references to aspects of mankind, and mankinds potential.
whereas the Elohim are a sort of "management team" .. babysitting us. parenting us. punishing and rewarding us etc...
[edit on 8-5-2009 by prevenge]
Originally posted by eradown
144000x13=1872000 this happens in 2012.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
If the 144,000 were taken away around say July 20-22 which also happens to be the same time as a solar eclipse and very high speculation that an event would happen in Israel known as the Abomination of Desolation.
In the current day scenario this could be the equivelent of a plague as referenced to in the book of revelations as wine. (S)wine? In this event elite members would be moved to underground bunkers mainly in mountainous regions like the Rocky Mountains where they would wait until it was safe to come back and live on the surface again. NORTHCOMM has been developing the inteligence since 9/11/01. They have GPS for every government vehicle for such a scenario where they could assist in the operation via remote or otherwise detailed as continuity of government.
These are the 144,000 elites you are talking about I presume?
[edit on 22-5-2009 by 12.21.12]
Originally posted by one4all
The 144000 come up in a lot of religous doctrine.The basic idea is that this number is the magic number to sustain humanity when the rest have been judged.144000 will not be judged as the rest of us will.Sopme of us will survive judgement but most wont,the main point being that 144000 will be spared judgement.
So we basically have 144000 people completely protected whilst the rest of us have our "goodness"tested probably with water and fire and all those sweet biblical flavours.
This is going to happen in the coming weeks of this year as Obama and the galactics reveal the first public information of Contact; the Cabal's demise, and NESARA's Announcement. The President has already given his timetable of 72 days which ends 7/11/09, for completing his actions.
So just relax and enjoy the show. Everyone else will suddenly look around and begin to wakeup and notice that some people are not panicking and in fact are smiling and nodding YES! They will then began to listen and ask more questions and begin their own process of letting go of the illusion the Illuminati have woven into every aspect of the Matrix Illusion.
We are all awaiting an event that will transpire in the near future. It is not of Earthly creation, so we can judge its timing quite accurately. I will not disclose it except to say that your long wait is about to end. Events will now cascade over the coming months. All of your preparations should be in place within the next two weeks.