Dr Leonard Horowitz follows Swine Flu trail, alleges criminal activity

Starred and Flag it's worth a look and maybe someone with better information can look deeper.

I wonder if the Baxter company has any ties to Novavax?

YouTube Link

May be related may not, but ferrets dying from bird flu???? That IS NOT supposed to happen. This is getting scarier.

More info about Baxter, an accidental cross of flu viruses like these are almost impossible, and I think that the likelyhood of human, bird and swine flu combining in nature and being contageous in humans is very low as well. Anyone know any facts about this?

More Baxter info

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CNN?

Ever heard of Operation Mockingbird?

CNN is NOT "the most trusted name in news" or certainly not the most trustworthy. CIA spooks vet everything that goes on the air from CNN.

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No TUFTS is among the best, so is Harvard of course. I didnt say anything about education, i just posted an article from CNN claiming patient zero has been found. /Cheers.

This is from NovaVax's own website. How many pharma companies have been working with bird, swine and human flu?


NovaVax pdf


Edited: posted wrong link, sorry

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Ponder THIS

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I agree with you, Mike, as I said on another post where I starred and flagged you - how come there were two posts?

Anyway, I have felt from the beginning that this flu has been engineered by unspeakably evil humans.

I am so sad that the world has come to this, and I wish us all good luck and good health.

But, on a brighter side, I think it is just another manipulation and will not mean the end of the world - although I am so sorry for those people in Mexico.

Lol, no problem. If anyone really screws up and creates a problem with me, I will most definitely let them know about it.

As you probably have noticed, fact statements with no fact and fallacy argument really get me motivated!

The reason for the post in the conspiracy forum was because this one had been totally derailed by ad hominem and other BS, and with a quickness. Within minutes I had the first baseless derailment attempts. Then the one I really went off on while I was taking my middle child to the doctor for a checkup...not happy about having to do that. Hospitals are not the place to be going to if you are healthy right now.

I was in dire need of some conspiracy mined individuals on this one.

Thanks for looking at this with a sly eye everyone!

Dr Leonard Horowitz is a dentist who was part of an investigation team for the council of the famous case of the Florida dentist who was accused of giving one of his patients the AIDS virus.

The research he did on the case led to him discovering as vast network of complicity in the world of big pharma and the spread of pathogenic agents to the population.

He concluded that not only AIDS/HIV were man made but also some of the associated cancers were also man made and distributed through a vaccination program.

I find his work fascinating especially the biblical healing codes 528hz

The current swine flu/ avian flu pandemic follows the time lines that Dr Horowitz has been promoting in his work so it seems like a natural corollary that he would release an announcement at this time

Of course it is self promotional, but if he did not believe what he was promoting was beneficial he would not be a very effective researcher

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Bravo, the commercial was a bad idea, maybe just something like, check out this information, then check out some of my other information.

Yahoo had this from the Associated Press. It seems to explain what the virus is made out of well and at least the opinion that it has been around for ten years.

The swine flu identity more clear, mystery still remains

This still leaves NovaVax suspicious with their stockpile of vaccine, I don't think my children and I will be getting the flu shot or any special vaccines, we haven't in the past and have been just fine.

I am going to have to dig through all the information you provided Coenbros. Apparently this conspiracy has been going on for a long time. Hopefully Dr. Horowitz will pull the ad out of his information, that would definitely help with the education factor. Maybe it will be like a "Darwin test", if they aren't smart enough to see past it then they don't get to live to reproduce.

No news yet on whether our local case is confirmed or not. I picked up some herbal immune boosters, essential oils and other supplies today.

The mortality variance doesn't make any sense, why is it killing in Mexico and not anywhere else? The media frenzy over it doesn't compute. Nobody seems to know where the virus came from. Still no infected pigs.

The kiddos are well versed in hand washing and related proceedures. We travel with hand sanitizer now, something I never used to worry about. We're pretty much going to stay home this weekend. I will have plenty of time to dig into the new info.

WATCH THE VIDEO IN THE PREVIOUS POST^^^^

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I don't get what you are getting at here.

The problem I see with that link (I also read through the reference from the link) is that if the virus was in waste, then the pigs there should have tested positive. It is possible that the virus didn't make the pigs sick, they were acting as carriers, but they should have tested positive. As closely packed as they keep the pigs in any large corporate farm most if not all of the pigs should have had it and continually passed it on to the new pigs coming into the farm, unless the farm slaughtered all of the pigs, did a complete disinfection protocol, and then moved new ones in which I doubt.

This doesn't exclude the possibility that Smithfield Foods bribed those responsible for the testing to make sure the results were negative.

I am assuming that they mean the flys carried the virus on their bodies and were not infected, right? Because a virus that could go from insect to mammal is supposed to not be possible. Of course, the Baxter influenza that killed the ferrets shouldn't have been possible either, but insect to mammal...yikes!

How long can the virus survive in the waste without getting into a host to replicate? Does anyone know?

SIV Challenge

I'm not sure we can trust the one AP article on what the virus actually is, can we? Is it H1N1, H1N2 a totally new mutation? Can we even trust anything that the WHO and CDC tell us?

Please someone tell me that the virus isn't replicating in insects, and mean it.

i've read a few books by horowitz, "Death In the Air" and "Emerging Viruses" and w/regards to the latter he presents documented evidence for one to make judgments but never did he force his opinion. i believe him to be credible.

Well I orignally planned on doing some video compression of my UFO video so it would be easier to upload and watch but I keep getting distracted by this topic.

Related info from an Autism site

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I keep finding mention of 500 pigs being infected with some form of swine flu and being slaughtered in Mexico but I can't find a report detailing it. Did these pigs have the same strain or not?

500 pigs killed

Anyone know anymore info about these pigs?

Here is a very recent report from the Associated Press.

Flu may not be so bad, watch out next flu season!?

The part of this whole article (and I have read this in another article a few days ago that stated the following more or less) that really bothers me is:

"The president stressed the government was still taking the virus very seriously, adding that even if this round turns out to be mild, the bug could return in a deadlier form during the next flu season."

First all the hype, then downplay it, then the warning for next fall...fishy. Just because the flu is being downplayed doesn't mean we should stop following this trail. Maybe "they" noticed too many people noticing and decided to back off.

But..I am going to make my new PDF sighting report forms and some video editing to get my burned out brain off this topic..bbl.