Naked Wizard Tasered at Coachella

reply to post by ThichHeaded


Please, oh for the love of all that is logical, please stop saying this was about freedom of religion and calling this a "Pagan Festival". It was a CONCERT. The Country/Western three day concert called "Stagecoach" is happening this weekend, is that a Pagan Festival too?

Whether anyone here is ok with public nudity is not the point. It is unlawful and he was in a very public setting. Were people hooting and hollering? Sure, does that mean "everyone" was ok with it? Not by any means. They asked him several times to follow the law and put his clothes on, he refused.

As far as the question of if these male cops would have done this to a female, highly doubtful, I'm sure they'd have called in female cops to do the tazing


Edit due to typing dyslexia

[edit on 4/23/2009 by Layla]

Originally posted by Redpillblues
Obviously theres something wrong with a naked man,to some it may not be anything,but it offended someone and thats all it took..

There was apparently not one person in the crowd who liked the police's actions, if you say all it takes for an individual to be 'rightfully' tazered (a technique that is increasingly resulting in deaths) is for someone to take offence then we are in a world of excrement. At the end of the day this guy was not parading around the streets of a city in a sexually provocative manner, rather a private pagan music festival where people are bound to be skyclad. Could you imagine the police using near-fatal force on the hippies at Woodstock for being naked? Didn't happen. What has changed since then? Glastonbury festival in England, every year you're going to see at least one naked person and what is done about it? Nothing. Go to a country like India and you will see naked people all the time in the name of religion and nobody bats an eyelid.

It is a sign of a sick society whereby the human body is persecuted with such vicious force, we are subjected to almost identical nudity during daytime TV, except in that sense it's sexual (much more potent than this naked wizard) and usually used to sell something to boot. Is it because he's male? Would the police have tazered a woman doing the same? I for one, do not think so. Hypocrisy and double standards abound, god bless America.

[edit on 23-4-2009 by Goathief]

Originally posted by Wildbob77
I'm sorry, he doesn't seem like much of a wizard to me.

you have strange expectations for qualifying a wizard.

a wizard, in the mystical (not magical) sense, attempts to subvert the "reality" meme of himself and those around him. to show a different or higher path, or a deeper meaning.

in that sense, wizards do not typically get along very well in conventional constraints.

those police can shove it...FIGHT THE POWER!

It seems to me that the police did nothing wrong in this video. They gave him plenty of chances to put his clothes back on. Coachella is an all ages event, there could quite possibly be children around. There were some people cheering him, but I'm sure there were just as many that left the area because they did not want to see this man hanging around (illegally) naked.

They gave him plenty of chances to put his clothes on, he repeatedly refused. There was even one point a person in the crowd was telling him to just put his clothes back on and he could stay. He didn't comply, he was doing something illegal, so they went to arrest him. He resisted arrest. At one point it even looks like he is possibly reaching for something on the one cop's belt, so he stands up and pulls his taser out. He still gave him time after that to comply, he still didn't, he was resisting arrest, he got tasered. The cops seemed absolutely correct in this situation, and even gave him more chances than most cops probably would have to put his clothes back on.

no I didnt say that all it takes is for one person to be offended for the cops to have the right to tase without cause..

Ill spell it out slowly..

naked man running around in public..
cops called
cops try to resolve problem peacefully
naked man takes agression by touching cop
naked man starts raising voice and throwing cloths
naked man touches cop number two ..
cops try to subdue without taser..
naked man resisted..
naked man tasers..

dont try to bend it the way you want..its on video..It has nothing to do with the crowd after the fact..It took one person to be offended to call the cops if the cops werent actively on dutie at the concert..
use your brains..geez

Originally posted by Layla
please stop saying this was about freedom of religion and calling this a "Pagan Festival".

....ummmm....what, exactly do you think these people are doing out in the desert listening to music for days on end?

this aint no cowboy gettin drunk on bud-light hootin and hollerin watching the buckin broncos.

it most certainly IS a pagan festival.

sounds like someone needs a reality pill.

reply to post by tgidkp


I've been to Coachella in the past. A friend went this year. Neither of us were worshipping any Pagan idols. We were IN FACT drinking and having a good old time listening to the music.

reply to post by Layla


oh. youre one of THOSE.

well, all i can say is that you were attempting to achieve an altered state of consciousness by using some of the exact same methods that tribal cults have used for millenia. (intoxication, music, chanting, dancing, fire, etc.)

call it what you want. but "The Establishment" has no place at such a gathering.

Originally posted by Layla
reply to post by tgidkp

 

I've been to Coachella in the past. A friend went this year. Neither of us were worshipping any Pagan idols. We were IN FACT drinking and having a good old time listening to the music.

Where did it say you have to be a pagan to attend a pagan festival? Did I miss something in the small print? Regardless of whether it is or isn't the headliners of the 2007 festival (Red Hot Chili Peppers) have performed on stage at festivals, fully naked, several times. Should we taze them midway through their set and all? Maybe you just think they are above us commoners who can attend and witness but can't participate...

[edit on 23-4-2009 by Goathief]

reply to post by tgidkp

it most certainly IS a pagan festival.

That really has nothing to do with it anyway. He broke the law, they gave him multiple chances to comply, he did not, he then resisted arrest. He then got tasered.

Pagan festival or not does not really matter, it is a public all ages event, and nudity is illegal in public. Who cares if it was a pagan festival or a christian parade, he broke the law, he resisted arrest, he got tased...what's the problem?

I would think being tased is just the natural end to disrobing and calling yourself a Naked Wizard.

you guys are going off-topic
paganism is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand

you know for the sake of the anti-police state movement is imperative to be able to distinguish from somewhat normal procedures to police brutality.

But if you just shout brutality all the time then your no better than the people at the tea parties with picket signs saying Obama is the antichrist thereby going against your own movement that you allegedly support.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I would think being tased is just the natural end to disrobing and calling yourself a Naked Wizard.

I just wanna know where his invisibility cloak was?I mean if I was a wizzard I woulda atleast cast a Viagra spell on myself before the show

Okay, part of that was funny...

Was he resisting? Yes. Will anything happen to the cops? Nope.

Was he hurting another living soul in that place? NO

Did it seem like anyone else but the cops cared that he was naked? Hell no..hence the chants of "take if off" & and handshakes & well wishes by the bystanders.

If the "boos" weren't obvious enough that the cops where infact NOT enforcing the people's will, then I guess you'll do just about anything that is written on paper wouldn't ya? Or you feel that the human body is just so shameful & ugly that one must be electrocuted immediately should they show it in public ...hmmm

This is a nice shade of gray for everyone to ponder awhile

That guys a horses ass. Those Cops bent over backwards to avoid that. Am I the only one who noticed more than one juvenile in that crowd? The Cops did there job, exactly as that idiot planned. If you think he did not plan to goad them into that you are very naive.

The sad part is he seemed to actually think people would want to see him naked

I also noted his apparent age. Suppose he still lives with Mommy? Let's hope he is sterile so he does not reproduce and actually raise children

Thanks for the laugh OP. The video though, sort of ruined my lunch.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
you guys are going off-topic
paganism is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand

you know for the sake of the anti-police state movement is imperative to be able to distinguish from somewhat normal procedures to police brutality.

Paganism is relevant because in Paganism being naked is part of a religious practice.

The reason it is police brutality is because:

1. The police officers initiated the confrontation

2. The nudist was not bothering anyone, in fact the crowd was on his side

3. Tasers were not necessary to detain the person, even though he should not have been detained in the first place.

Therefore, by initiating a confrontation, then using unnecessary force, the officers in question demonstrated a textbook example of police brutality.

Originally posted by Shakesbeer
Okay, part of that was funny...

Was he resisting? Yes. Will anything happen to the cops? Nope.



If the "boos" weren't obvious enough that the cops where infact NOT enforcing the people's will,
This is a nice shade of gray for everyone to ponder awhile

See thats the problem,it isnt up to the crowd..Its the LAW...Cops uphold LAWS..and no gray here,its black and white..You just need to take off the rose colored glasses to see it..

reply to post by drwizardphd


So, by that reasoning, I could smoke crack on the street corner and so long as I wasn't bothering anyone it is fine.

He broke the law. He resisted arrest. He paid the consequences. What further discussion does there need to be?

Just because the people standing around were not bothered by it, does not mean that there weren't plenty of people around that were bothered by it, just most likely, they would have left that general area, since they did not want to look at some guy standing around naked.

Whether people are bothered by it or not has nothing to do with it. He broke the law. He then resisted arrest. The cops then tasered him as to subdue him and arrest him. AFTER giving him multiple chances to just put his clothes back on and there would be no further issue.

If he wants to stand around naked he can go to a private nudist colony, or his own home. It is not acceptable in a public place, especially one where all ages are welcome, including under 5 years old. They did not just go up to him and go oh crap he's naked lets taser him. They gave him several chances to put his clothes back on, he did not.

By the way, if that guy had been whacking me on the arm like he was to that one cop "patting him" or whatever he was doing, I personally would have hit the guy. I'm not a cop though. Those cops were extremely nice, gave him multiple chances. This was his own fault.

What I don't get is why police don't taser dogs for walking around naked too?

I'm confused on human logic?

Originally posted by Redpillblues
Its the LAW...Cops uphold LAWS..and no gray here,its black and white..

The same could be said about the religion squads that patrol Taliban controlled areas. Our laws are just a few notches above theirs, but just a few. That man obviously had no weapons (that work ), being naked and all. I think the cops were lazy and annoyed, but not in danger, so that force was not justified. Tazing somebody can kill them, especially an old naked wizard. His offense was not worthy of that kind of risk.