New flu with high mortality rate spreading in Mexico

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posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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No sir, as I said I did not mean you specifically, I was just commenting on the media snip about the vaccines or whatever it was. It honestly was not directed at you personally but more of a broad statement.

I apologize if I can across as being combative or singling you out as that was not the intention.




posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by mmiichael


Don't take this as an attempt to start a new conspiracy theory. I have some background in the medical world.

Any country, particularly the US, would benefit tremendously if there was an epidemic to which the elderly were most vulnerable. All people die eventually, and something like half their medical costs of a lifetime go to the last few months of their life.

That said, if something like a million people died enmasse instead of living their full expectancy into their 80s and 90s, the savings for the government, employers, the health system, and all around, who be enormous.

A company like GM is obligated to pay lifetime health costs for something like a million people right now, mostly pensioners and their wives. They would be saddened but not displeased if many of these people had their lives shortened by a decade or so.

I think most will get the gist of my reasoning.

Now if only those brilliant bioengineers can come up with something credible that is fatal primarily with people in their 70s and upward. Maybe they're working on it. Maybe their testing it right now.


Mike


Hello Mike,

There is one very small point that you are overlooking here. The elderly also use more pharmaceuticals than anyone else (most take 6-10 pills daily) and the pharmaceutical companies probably could care less where the money came from (insurance, medicare or where ever). So they in turn lobby the government (I believe they are the largest group represented by lobbyist) and of course our representatives would never sell out their own country or taxpayer money just to line their own pockets would they? (bank bailouts?)

[edit on 4/23/2009 by DarrylGalasso]



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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This has been going around in the united states as well. I should know I had it 2 months ago. 1st sign is a scratchy throat , then it is the tiredness, then it is the irritability, then you have a hard time breathing, ;much mucas , then the fever hits. 103 minimum. lasts 6 days and the whole time you are craving ice water ..LOTS OF IT... I WARN YOU.... drink Ice water non stop when these symptoms start to progress... It saved me, and I bet it will save you!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by ReelView
Stock up on MMS. It's cheap, it works, it lasts a long time, it's easy to administer, etc..


What's MMS sorry I just have no idea what that it!! If it is something I need to stock up on I sure will. Thanks a lot



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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Here is what I don't get. I think we are all pretty much in agreement that there is some extremely shady stuff going on. In their own documents they talk about it. Many many conspiracy laden events continue to happen. So why then go to all the trouble with the set-up like the miac report about right wing "extremists" and the mandatory community service and the crashing of the economy, why then wipe us out with a pandemic flu? It makes no sense to me. It would explain things we've heard about like the trains, and the camp for people needing to be "quarantined" for lack of taking the flu shot or whatever. But the rest of it. All the preparation just to wipe us out in such a random fashion? I just don't get it.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by DarrylGalasso

There is one very small point that you are overlooking here. The elderly also use more pharmaceuticals than anyone else (most take 6-10 pills daily) and the pharmaceutical companies probably could care less where the money came from (insurance, medicare or where ever). So they in turn lobby the government (I believe they are the largest group represented by lobbyist) and of course our representatives would never sell out their own country or taxpayer money just to line their own pockets would they? (bank bailouts?)




Your point is well taken. But we are talking about a hypothetical situation - I hope.

The pharmaceutical industry, which is worldwide and largely based in Europe as the US, would certainly mourn the loss of so many elderly people whose lives were cut short, as former customers. Good news for them would be so many would need so much medication in their forced forward
last days. Call it a boom cycle.

We can rely on the same megalithic industry to develop new pharmaceuticals to prevent the same illness after the demonstration of how deadly it was, and rely on them to create both new diseases and their cures. In all it would mean a market shift to other areas of less exploited concern, say children.

They might work on a cure for believing in Conspiracy Theories and addiction to websites that transmit them. It might even be isolated as a virus!

Just a suggestion.

Thanks for the indulgence.


Mike



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posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by dtice
Here is what I don't get. I think we are all pretty much in agreement that there is some extremely shady stuff going on. In their own documents they talk about it. Many many conspiracy laden events continue to happen. So why then go to all the trouble with the set-up like the miac report about right wing "extremists" and the mandatory community service and the crashing of the economy, why then wipe us out with a pandemic flu? It makes no sense to me. It would explain things we've heard about like the trains, and the camp for people needing to be "quarantined" for lack of taking the flu shot or whatever. But the rest of it. All the preparation just to wipe us out in such a random fashion? I just don't get it.


Well some would argue that the financial crash would help leave the populous helpless in the event of a pandemic, and that certain measures put in place to manage the event could not escape the public’s attention.

However a good district attorney could indict, try, and convict a ham sandwich of murder, and I for one seriously doubt that the government has any design intended to cull the masses. I do however know they have a contingency plan, as it is public knowledge and I would expect no less.

The Influenza A (H1N1) virus is very common and accounts for up to half of the annual flu cases worldwide. This virus exists in many different strains and is continually evolving into new variants. Chances are that this virus is not going to amount to much more, but there is always that possibility. A culling Pandemic is without a doubt in store for us in the future, but mother nature hardly needs any help from the PTB.

We are suffering from some very sad affairs, but I would bet the real culprits are to be found in the popular media who seem to think that their word is the word of the people. I guess to some extent it is, as the continued use of propaganda can be used to convince a person that his retched life is awesome, tear down religious beliefs (noted numerous times in history), Convince die hard combatants that their cause is useless etc etc etc. We need a much broader line up of media outlets in this country.

This type of control can be extremely dangerous as just a few entities can drive market speculation to extreme highs or lows, put tyrants into public office etc etc. Think about it for a minute! What couldn’t the popular media do?

I think it is good for a country as a whole to question those that govern them, and the PTB should be expected to bend under the peoples will and give truthful answers when they are demanded. The popular medias approach to the tea parties were most upsetting to me, and if it were up to me would signal the end of their fear mongering monopoly.

Give me a free and balanced media, or I’ll continue to see the Federal Government as an puppet administration led by the popular medias agenda. You reap what you sow, and this kind of widespread view can and will lead to serious upheaval in this country. The promotion of a more balanced and open media should be a top priority of the current administration. If it were officially acknowledged that the popular media exercises control over the population, a more balanced media would be demanded.

Realize it or not the future resides with us!! Tell your children that the popular media is not to be trusted, and can at times even be traitorous. Make sure they understand and we can kiss their control over us goodbye.

Those who remain tongue tied by their political ambitions really are the vilest of men.



[edit on 24-4-2009 by Donkey_Dean]



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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this is no joke! Just now i was watching the news from Mexico and they are pretty serious about this. Tomorrow (friday) every school private and public including universities will be closed trying to avoid this virus. This is #ing freacky!

In my opinion this is some manufactured virus by the government. Its just too suspicious. They're even saying that you should not greet with hand shakes nor kiss, and that public places should be avoided.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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News from Australia...

New flu combines pig, bird and human virus
[url=http://www.news.com.au...]

Biota gets boots from flu pandemic fears
[url=http://news.smh.com.au...]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by dingleberry77
News from Australia...

New flu combines pig, bird and human virus
[url=http://www.news.com.au...]


How easy is it to make THIS combination??
How would this combination EVER make itself...?


kix

posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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Classes have been suspended in Mexico city at all levels and in all schools Private and public. Also in the Metropolitan area.
Sick People are advised not to go to work tomorrow, They are vaccinating the whole medical staff of hospitals and health related people.

THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE USA AND CANADA AS A NEW STRAIN.

They are giving instructions that nobody should shake hands, kiss, kiss on the cheek salutations, use surgical mask if posible and wash hands etc.

The president and the whole staff were reunited for 4 hours today so I guess this is pretty bad.

Ill keep you posted.

Hope they get this strain in check, for the benefit of a LOT of people.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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Sorry, but i have not read any of the posts, all i know is this.. i am in canada on the west coast on an island..victoria bc..i came down with this last saturday, an awareness of a sweling on the right side of my head, by sunday i had nasty yellow stuff coming from above my palate by monday i was sneezing continuosly at work ...tuesday morning i called in sick with a fever today is thursday it is in my lungs still but i am feeling much better, i have homeopathics and everything a person would really need to combat a bacterial pneumonia, which is what this really is the same one that was deployed last july within the aerosol program, the satelite 1km image and 4 km image showed this program, the media spin is all spin as it always is, they are either testing bioligical weapons on us once again or are trying to do us the people in....the spraying...chemtrails were nuts in the prior week.. can you say mycopasma? because it mimics a virus, you breathe it in and voila within 5 days or so you have something that looks like a flu virus with similar symptons or so it seems, the head has changed but the apparatus has not ie the pentagon and the war mongers, How in the hell can the USA preach to the world about weapons of mass destruction, deterrants etc, when thy are the biggest contributers to these weapons, testing them on an innocent public and their nieghbours canada. Obama is a puppet, perhaps a better puppet than the last but most of the USA poppulation are dillussional anyway or on pharmacieticals that render them senseless anyway..what i saw was..on the sat images trails that went south as far as san fan and more...just check the noaa goes west ikm and 4 km on regular basis and you will see what they are doing...cheers. out



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by kix
Classes have been suspended in Mexico city at all levels and in all schools Private and public. Also in the Metropolitan area.
Sick People are advised not to go to work tomorrow, They are vaccinating the whole medical staff of hospitals and health related people.

THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE USA AND CANADA AS A NEW STRAIN.

They are giving instructions that nobody should shake hands, kiss, kiss on the cheek salutations, use surgical mask if posible and wash hands etc.

The president and the whole staff were reunited for 4 hours today so I guess this is pretty bad.

Ill keep you posted.

Hope they get this strain in check, for the benefit of a LOT of people.



Where did you get this information? Sounds like fear mongering crap to me..

[edit on 24-4-2009 by Donkey_Dean]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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My point exactly. As if it's ever going to happen.

What? A pig, a bird and a human had one big orgy one night?



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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Hearing this on the news more and more up here in Canada. I was watching the hockey game (ducks vs sharks.. I'm a duck fan!!) and right after on CBC they go on a story about this. I was talking to some friends who live in the USA and who I'd think would have heard about this, especially a friend in AZ (whos a regular on this site) and none heard about this. Not to say it's the next huge thing, but you'd think in the places close to mexico there would be more danger signs, or more stuff on the news about this... Seems more of Canada is getting this, and we're not bordered with Mexico.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by dingleberry77
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My point exactly. As if it's ever going to happen.

What? A pig, a bird and a human had one big orgy one night?


Right...
This is absurd.
And disturbing beyond words....



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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Here's a link to a CBC article.


Link: www.cbc.ca...


The U.S. cases are unusual, because it appears none of the patients had contact with pigs, and the virus is one that health officials have never seen before.

No cases of this swine flu have yet been found in Canada. The country's national laboratory in Winnipeg is analyzing 51 samples from Mexico to determine if any of them are swine flu and are linked to the U.S. cases. Results are expected in two days.



New virus raises spectre of pandemic

If the link is made, it may signal the emergence of a new pandemic virus, infection control specialist Dr. Michael Gardam, told CBC News in an interview Thursday night.

"It certainly is suspicious that you have a new strain of swine flu showing up just north of the Mexican border, and you have an outbreak of cases south in Mexico," he said.

"We already have the Americans talking about the H1N1 strain, which is a new strain they haven't seen before .… If you had evidence that this strain was also in Mexico, you would have further evidence that something new has shown up which has the ability to go person-to-person and has crossed borders as well."



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by mystiq
They're starting now are they? How kind of them!

Not unlike Sars in the severity of the symptoms, and we all know where that lovely thing came from!!!! If this starts to cause death, then its going to be time to take organize the end of the governments. And take them all out. That will be their response to their martial law, their pandemics. They go down and every single neocon they supported must be rounded up and investigated and sentenced for crimes against humanity as well.


Perfectly said mystiq, things are definitely out of control. We cant allow them to drag us under or claim 'so and so' did it this time! S&F!



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by ReelView
Stock up on MMS. It's cheap, it works, it lasts a long time, it's easy to administer, etc..


What is MMS? If you are trying to educate, then it helps to use the full term.





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