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Originally posted by jd140
This is the second time this little bit of my post has been quoted. Alone it looks like I make the arguement you accuse me of. All together I am asking what makes us better then what we have done?
Everyone is saying that we are better then that. I am asking when have we been better then that?
At one time, we allowed slavery. We decided that it wasn't morally correct, etc.. so we outlawed slavery. We became better then what we were.
Maybe NOW is the time for us to become better then we were. Throughout history, there have been pivotal moments where people have stood up and said no more or never again. Maybe this is one of those times.
Yes we outlawed slavery.
And when we did outlaw slavery we punished everyone who chose to break that law.
We haven't been nowhere near as diligent about torture. We can't ignore it all this time and one day choose to uphold the law.
The law has to be upheld at all times or it becomes impotent.
If we want to say we were wrong, then so be it. But if we want to prosecute then we have to do a full fledge investigation.
We will have to treat the government as a buisness and dig back as far as we can and find out if anyone still in politics or alive was or has ever been involved with torture.
But to call for the head of one administration is nothing but a witch hunt.
Originally posted by Redpillblues
How do you handle an enemy that has no problem blowing themselves up?
now that same guy,how would you get any info out of him?you think hes gonna get chatty with a few beers?
Wake up..these people would sooner put there head in a wood chipper then give an infidel anything..
Originally posted by Redpillblues
reply to post by Exuberant1
since when has both of those documents you speek of afford any foreigner protection?
Originally posted by Redpillblues
Do you support Constitution Free Zones?
If your refering to these
www.aclu.org...
for legal US citizen no,I beleive i should be protected by my constitution until i hit international waters..It would make where the documents were signed,well unconstutional
No,you were giving enhanced interrogation
Originally posted by Exuberant1
If I waterboarded you after suspecting you of being a terrorist, would I have I committed a crime? [edit on 1-5-2009 by Exuberant1]
Thanks in advance.
[edit on 1-5-2009 by Redpillblues]
Originally posted by Redpillblues
Please stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your questions are enough torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If your trying to find out my mind set or morals or just ask will ya..
I'm all for killing 1 to save a 2-1000...or more..Our government has been doing it for years..and chances are it has kept you and me safe..That is if your a us citizen..
Originally posted by Styki
My idea of who these techniques would be used upon would not include my family and me because we are not high ranking members of a terror organization.
Originally posted by Styki
reply to post by Hazelnut
Basic training was not exactly like torture it's exactly what the title says, the basic training required to introduce you to the Army and prepare you for further training. It's quite easy today. It is much easy today than it was so 5, 10 or 20 years ago. The training that resembles torture would be SERE training (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape).