Originally posted by dooper
George W. Bush had a lot of faults, but one fault he didn't have was having a swinging pair when it came to dealing with these guys.
Six years he kept us safe by using every method legal.
Just curious but how do you know he kept us safe? There have been long lulls in attacks and this just could have been another lull and bush may have
had nothing to do with it.
All those rights he took from us may and probably were for not.
I think we should do it just as you suggest.
We can say please.
I never said that. Not once. As a matter of fact, I bet you can't find any post I've ever made that said that. So either you're putting words
into my mouth (aka making things up) or you'll be able to show where I said that. So what's it gonna be tough guy?
And when we have another disaster, and everyone's screaming for more intelligence, everyone's screaming that we should have done something
earlier, I hope you're still on ATS.
I will be. And since we know torture does not work, we won't have to worry about wasting our time torturing people when we can use other techniques
that ARE effective for obtaining intelligence
I'll remind you that these guys aren't playing, and there is nothing you can do to make them like us. Nothing.
Again, you're missing my point ENTIRELY.
Yes I know those Taliban and Al Queda TERRORISTS cannot be bargaining or negotiated with. They don't want peace, they want us to not exist on this
planet. Yeah, I get all that and I completely agree that terrorists are bad people that are better off dead.
The problem I have with torturing is when it comes to SUSPECTS. You know, those people that someone might think they could be a bad guy so we torture
them to find out. This has happened. Let's hope you or someone you care about doesn't end up on a watch list and become a suspect who is later
tortured for information they don't have. Now do you see where I'm coming from? I'm not trying to protect the guilty but instead, protect the
So we'll have our disaster. I have no idea how many lives will be lost the next time, but those deaths can partially laid at the feet of
good-intentioned folks with your thinking.
Nope. Not at all. Can you point to one incident where torturing a suspect have saved American lives? Citing actual evidence and not opinion.
We're about to politically-correct ourselves right into a disaster.
Believe me. I'm not politically correct. Wanna know what I thought should have happened in Afghanistan? When we had osama in the mountains, we
should have bombed the mountains 24/7 using tactical bunker busters, EMP bombs, MOABS (just for effect
, ABL systems to fry any terrorists we could
find on the ground.
That shock and awe crap was a joke ! Drop cluster bombs, etc...
Sound politically correct to you ?