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Originally posted by smokingmonkey
If torturing a known terrorist could possibly provide a tiny bit of good information, or small peak at the inter workings of terror organizations, or maybe even save one innocent life, then I say get medieval on their a$$, then cover their corpse with spam before you let the dogs eat them. Violence is all they understand, and all they deserve.
Originally posted by smokingmonkey
If torturing a known terrorist could possibly provide a tiny bit of good information, or small peak at the inter workings of terror organizations, or maybe even save one innocent life, then I say get medieval on their a$$, then cover their corpse with spam before you let the dogs eat them. Violence is all they understand, and all they deserve.
Originally posted by Redpillblues
Originally posted by smokingmonkey
If torturing a known terrorist could possibly provide a tiny bit of good information, or small peak at the inter workings of terror organizations, or maybe even save one innocent life, then I say get medieval on their a$$, then cover their corpse with spam before you let the dogs eat them. Violence is all they understand, and all they deserve.
your better off with pigs..they will get rid of the bones and all..
To cheif half cock,when you go over seas and see what we have seen,you'll understand that why there is a need for what they done to get what info they did..when your battling an enemy that knows no boundry's sometime you need to get at there level or lower to get an upper hand..Its not the PC or ''in'' thing to do by the emo generation..I would go out on a limb and say if those pics never came out we would be saying ''what torture''..right now everyones out there covering there ass and pointing fingers..
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by jfj123
jfj, the reason the death penalty is no longer a deterrent is because they've sanitized and concealed it. They hide it away, which is counterproductive to being a deterrent.
When you have public exectutions, and the public attends, especially the youngsters, I guarandamntee you that witnessing this will make a lasting impression.
You make executions public, and you'll see a difference in whether it's a deterrent or not. As a responsible parent, you take your kid to an execution, and he'll never forget it.
Originally posted by dooper
When the guy is a combatant, shooting at you, he is armed, and he has no uniform, it's a real simple calculation.
Armed, shooting at you = non-uniformed combatant.
NOT a suspect.
Originally posted by dooper
First off, you don't just pick people at random off the street when you bring them in for questioning.
You've usually got contacts, recording, video, repeated contacts with known subversive militant, and you start from there.
And those countries that they really hold to public executions? They may have petty crime, but the serious stuff is a rarity. Very rare.
Executions work.
And it doesn't traumatize the children.
It teaches them that some behavior is not acceptable, and that there is a penalty.
We have become such a candiass nation of slack-jawed pansies that we can't be strong enough to do what is right, when it needs doing, and to hell with the fairies.
Originally posted by Redpillblues
you have to realize that they are very smart..smarter than us in the respect that they know what we can and can not do..They stratagize around it..Christ they use our own media against us..Thee biggest thing is perception..If you see what they want you to see they have already partly won..I am sure the prisoners we had were more than identified as combatants or people of value..They will make you perceive that their innocent all the way till there back unscrewing the ends of artilary shells making IED's.....Palestine films fakes fire fights and sells it to the world as real..Thats the kinda stuff our government is dealing with..
Originally posted by dooper
George W. Bush had a lot of faults, but one fault he didn't have was having a swinging pair when it came to dealing with these guys.
Six years he kept us safe by using every method legal.
I think we should do it just as you suggest.
We can say please.
And when we have another disaster, and everyone's screaming for more intelligence, everyone's screaming that we should have done something earlier, I hope you're still on ATS.
I'll remind you that these guys aren't playing, and there is nothing you can do to make them like us. Nothing.
So we'll have our disaster. I have no idea how many lives will be lost the next time, but those deaths can partially laid at the feet of good-intentioned folks with your thinking.
We're about to politically-correct ourselves right into a disaster.
Originally posted by Redpillblues
innocent...Take that with a grain of salt..Just because he wasnt caught with his hand in the cookie jar that time doesnt mean he never got one..