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You get this when police brutality happens with thousands of eye witnesses.

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posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:17 AM
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To the people who think the fans went too far- grow a spine. It was a long time coming to all the countless police brutality cases we've witnessed here on ATS. I'm glad those pigs got the # kicked out of em', serves em' right and I bet they'll think twice next time before they beat someone. This video really made my day, thanks.




posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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The police will only be like that until the citizens demand better of their law enforcement. All law enforcement needs civilian oversight. Law enforcement needs to put their candidates through thorough psychological tests to determine the bullies and people who have control and maturity issues. If they are doing that now, then there is obviously a problem with who they are passing through.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by jfj123I would even go so far as to suggest a new agency be created that is completely independent that would investigate these police brutality crimes. Internal Investigation units at police departments obviously can't do the job.


ah yes, but then who polices the police that police the police?

you could go on all day like that. it would be a hell of a lot easier if police were just held to the same standards as joe public by the judiciary and reported upon fairly in the media.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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OK, I took a look at the video.

Everyone on this thread is saying the cops this and the cops that.

Are these guys in fact cops? I doubt it, the stadium probably has its own security forces, just like here in the states. So, these guys are hired security and may never have been police officers.

Anyway, the guy running onto the field was asking for it. No doubt he knew that running onto the field would get him arrested? So, the security forces run after him, tackle him, and are in the process of subduing him, when a bunch of "fans" run onto the field and proceed to start a riot.

The security forces were just doing their jobs, nothing more, nothing less. The "fans" who then ran onto the field were breaking the law and proceeded to asault the security forces.

The "fans" were clearly in the wrong. Even if they thought that the guy on the ground was being mistreated, starting a riot is not an acceptable solution.

By the way, what was on the sign? I am sure that it was some sort of political statement, and I am willing to bet that the first four or five guys on the field were part of his group.

So, put me on the side of the security forces.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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The words of Thomas Jefferson NEED to be brought up here, for all the american readers.


God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.


Now, those of you that think you know how to run a country better than Thomas Jefferson, stand up and let yourselves be counted.

If not, well then STFU.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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If you were getting punched in the face by 3-4 police wouldn't you struggle to get out of the situation... All they should of done is pinned the guy down cuffed him then took him away with no troubles!



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by jfj123
I hope he sued the hell out of them.
EVERYONE needs to be held more accountable ESPECIALLY those in authority roles.
I would even go so far as to suggest a new agency be created that is completely independent that would investigate these police brutality crimes. Internal Investigation units at police departments obviously can't do the job.


The problem is such independent groups or associations don't remain independent for long.
They're quickly infiltrated and controlled by those with a vested interest in the outcomes.

Every Police force on Earth has an "old boys" club, where they look out for each other, and that extends throughout the ranks as people are promoted and change roles. The same happens in political arenas too.

One of the best ways to fight this trend of police brutality is to name and shame them. Regardless of excuses and explanations, they cannot deny the video evidence. When it is offered to the people, most can see who is right and who is wrong, regardless of the situation or false propaganda spouted by those in power.

And perhaps that is why we are seeing draconian laws regarding the right to film or photograph Police officers. They know that the people can fight their propaganda with video evidence, so they want to prevent that.

Now we all have a camera on our phones, we should all be policing our own world and offering the evidence for public review. And the Police know that this is entirely possible and puts their actions in the spotlight.

Short answer, we should all keep filming.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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I saw this on Live TV.. It happened on Switzerland (i think.. i cant remember all that well) on game between Portugal and the home country.. What you saw werent people from that country acting.. They were portuguese immigrants living on that country.. Everywhere Portugal plays (as i believe its same with other countrys) its a "party" for them.. The guy that invaded the field was portuguese and wouldnt do nothing wrong.. he was just happy.. maybe a bit drunk

And yes.. those man werent polices.. they were security forces.. and their reaction was exagerated PERIOD. The environment was of "party".. No intended revolution there nothing.. Its not the first time it happens (entering the field) and it was the first time i saw someone being beaten because of it..
So NO.. i dont condemn the people for what they did.. they deserved it..
At the same time, this has nothing to do with police state whatsoever..



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by marsha law
It was the players who stopped the cops.
Where was this by the way?

Like the OP says. What were they thinking?


They werent thinking.

What the hell did the guy do to get tackled to the ground for? All they had to do was calm the guy down and escort him off the field. It was NO BIG DEAL.

I'm glad the cops got the living crap beat out of them. This makes me smile with hope because I hate everything today's police stand for. let the message come across that this is what happens when you abuse the trust and authority given to you by the people.

They do absolutely nothing to protect anything. they simply complicate justice, and only seek profit in the process. 90 percent of what they purport to protect everyone from is created by them to justify their presence and payroll.

If i see someone unjustly being abused by cops or anyone, I'll be there to answer the call. Not everyone is a confused scared quivering little coward that will just sit there, agree with the "authority" imposed on them (you know, for their "security" or whatever) and allow the police to get away with the crimes THEY now commit. They will react just like we saw in the video, and GOOD THING!!!

I hope to see much more of this because any cop acting in that fashion has it coming!

I know those a-holes will think twice about what they do next time.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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A riot is a disorganized mob and is not the kind of "rebellion" that Jefferson advocated.

I once brought up the same quote that you used in an American History class and asked the instructor (A PhD in history) why we haven't had a rebellion since the Civil War. Her response was profound. She replied that the public has a chance to rebel against the status quo every election day. She then went on to point out that those who don't vote simply choose not to participate, which is their right, but they are also very unlikely to rebel in any other manner.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
Of course the police where scum, but what can you do, the police are always like that and always will be.


What can you do? Watch the video again, and take notes.


That video warms the heart. The police see us as livestock they can hit with sticks whenever we inconvenience them. I only hope this type of reaction becomes commonplace...



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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While I totally agree that the actions of the police (or security or whatever they were) were certainly well over the top and that they should be disciplined, it never ceases to amaze me how so many of you argue the right for people to break the law. It doesn't matter how stupid you think the law is - it's the law. I disagree with many laws too, but the argument that "he wasn't hurting anyone" is just plain stupid. So what if he wasn't hurting anyone, he was still breaking the law. It really irritates me how ignorant people are. If I go to a football game and some idiotic drunk moron runs around the field in a desperate attempt for his 15 minutes of fame and no one escorts him off of the field because, after all, he "isn't hurting anyone", I am going to be angry and contemplate taking him off of the field myself. I am so sick and tired of this generation that is so full of themselves that they think they are above the law.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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Thank you angry mob


I salutttee you



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I thought this video was quite funny and truly telling. Maybe those officers were simply being given a performance review by their employers (the tax payers). Looks like their next raise may be in question. I have friends who are officers and I respect them greatly. But if I ever saw them do something like this I would be the first one to knock their block off.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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Psst friend.. the law is made by men.. not from any super god.. And sometimes the law is not good..
In the Noruemberga Trials the defense argument that the criminals didnt made nothing wrong because german law permit it..
So think before you blindly follow the law..



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:09 PM
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I was thinking about this......


The problem with 'resisting arrest' is that it seems like a crime in which the police are able to INDEPENDANTLY charge one with, judge, and deal out punishment.

So there is never any justice in that. Unless, of course, bystanders can do the same for the charge of police brutality.

Then Justice has her balance with two sides having weight again.

There is a big problem with 'alleged' police brutality because no matter what the evidence, it is always alleged and INVESTIGATED by INTERNAL investigation.

The fox should not watch the henhouse, I don't care if that is the way it has always been done or not.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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At first I expected the crowd to start cheering as the police began punching the poor guy .. tackled and assaulted for running on the field... I was pleasantly surprised to see the first person run in and kick the cop off the guy. The police deserved what they got, they deserve more. The police are NOT above the law, they ARE NOT the law, they are charged with enforcing the law within the bounds of the law.

I will be passing this video along .. it made my day.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by lunarminer
OK, I took a look at the video.

Everyone on this thread is saying the cops this and the cops that.

Are these guys in fact cops? I doubt it, the stadium probably has its own security forces, just like here in the states. So, these guys are hired security and may never have been police officers.

That's possible.


Anyway, the guy running onto the field was asking for it.

No he was not asking to be beaten with a night stick. Have you ever been hit by one? How about multiple times? With a lot of force? You think he deserved that for running down a field with a couple signs?


No doubt he knew that running onto the field would get him arrested?

Or maybe simply asked to leave the field?
Or escorted off the field?
Maybe even arrested.
But being arrested doesn't mean being beaten with a nightstick now does it?


So, the security forces run after him, tackle him, and are in the process of subduing him, when a bunch of "fans" run onto the field and proceed to start a riot.

You left off the part where the security, police, whomever they were, beat him with a nightstick.
The fans initially just got the "personnel" off the guy so they would stop beating him which is ILLEGAL in most civilized countries. After that point, the fans should have stopped until it was sorted out. That's where the fans went wrong. They became just as bad as the "personnel" who tried to subdue the guy.


The security forces were just doing their jobs, nothing more, nothing less.

So you actually think that it's ok for security and/or police to beat people as they arrest them? Just curious but is your first name Adolf????


The "fans" who then ran onto the field were breaking the law and proceeded to asault the security forces.

Actually they were preventing a crime that was in progress which was an assault and battery on the guy with the oh so dangerous signs.


The "fans" were clearly in the wrong. Even if they thought that the guy on the ground was being mistreated, starting a riot is not an acceptable solution.

Actually stopping the assault and battery should be acceptable. Anything after that should not have happened.


By the way, what was on the sign? I am sure that it was some sort of political statement, and I am willing to bet that the first four or five guys on the field were part of his group.

Unless the sign said "I have a bomb", why does it even matter? It's just a sign. You know, cardboard with some words on it.


So, put me on the side of the security forces.

Sure no problem mein furor !



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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I agree. The man should have been escorted off the field. Not spear tackled by four guys and punched multiple times in the head and dragged off unconscious.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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After that point, the fans should have stopped until it was sorted out. That's where the fans went wrong. They became just as bad as the "personnel" who tried to subdue the guy.


Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.




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