Name the Leader

This is simple, who do the posters on this forum put their faith in as a leader that is honest and can get us out of the mess we find ourselves in?

There is a lot of bitch'in and complaining, but , what is the solution.

Does anyone have a solution?

reply to post by Stormdancer777


In USA there is only one real hope:

Ron Paul

In Europe we really need guys like him...

There's some more here, I remembered responding to it as well.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Originally posted by JanusFIN
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

In USA there is only one real hope:

Ron Paul

In Europe we really need guys like him...

Thank you Janus I need to know more about him, and I will check him out.

Originally posted by dragonking76
There's some more here, I remembered responding to it as well.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Thank you, I am looking for answers and hoping people will feel free to voice their opinions without condemnation.

There is no doubt in my mind we all want the samething.

So let's work together,

Although I don't trust any of the current leaders and do trust Ron Paul, I don't think he's the one to get us out of this mess. I just can't see him in an international realm. I wish I knew.

IMO, there is no such person. And even if there was, I just don't see Americans as willing to make the necessary sacrifices to turn this thing around.

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Although I don't trust any of the current leaders and do trust Ron Paul, I don't think he's the one to get us out of this mess. I just can't see him in an international realm. I wish I knew.

I see, I don't know much about him, yet.

On the other topic one person said we don't need a leader, that will never happen.

OH wait, what is a leader?

It should be someone that serves.

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, there is no such person. And even if there was, I just don't see Americans as willing to make the necessary sacrifices to turn this thing around.

Jam what are those sacrifices?

Let's see what we need to change.

I feel that the leader (President) is not the main problem. It's the Senate and House. Those politicans are the ones who make policy. They are the main cause of the USA's problems.

Term Limits are a good start...it will never happen though. Presidents are only in office for 4-8 years. Some congressmen/women have been there for over twenty plus years.

I think 4-6 year terms limits are needed.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by ferretman2]

Originally posted by ferretman2
I feel that the leader (President) is not the main problem. It's the Senate and House. Those politicans are the ones who make policy. They are the main cause of the USA's problems.

Term Limits are a good start...it will never happen though. Presidents are only in office for 4-8 years. Some congressmen/women have been there for over twenty plus years.

I think 4-6 year terms limits are needed.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by ferretman2]

Yes, I agree,

There are more of us then there are of them, surely there is a way.

We have to come out in force and vote out these people.

But then you have to worry about experience.

the leader i vote for is Manitu

simple Holy spirit



NW

reply to post by ferretman2


The sad part is that once a congressman has been there long enough they have earned some serious power. The people they represent know that they will be heard 'more' because of this power. Therefore, unless there is some big scandal, the incumbant(sp?) will probably be elected for as long as he/she wishes to be.

I think the leaders that are sought for are not currently politicians, and definately not lawyers. Therefore, I would be extremely suprised if we do get the leaders needed, due to mudslinging proffessionals.

Originally posted by NW111
the leader i vote for is Manitu

simple Holy spirit

NW

AWWW, that one I understand.

Originally posted by dragonking76
reply to post by ferretman2

 

The sad part is that once a congressman has been there long enough they have earned some serious power. The people they represent know that they will be heard 'more' because of this power. Therefore, unless there is some big scandal, the incumbant(sp?) will probably be elected for as long as he/she wishes to be.

I think the leaders that are sought for are not currently politicians, and definately not lawyers. Therefore, I would be extremely suprised if we do get the leaders needed, due to mudslinging proffessionals.

I am thinking people may be becoming fed up, we shall see.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Welfare dependency

Living high on the hog

using less electricity, oil, gas

no more government subsidizing

Less government across the board

Basically Americans need to become more self-sufficient, responsible, and learn how to help their family, friends, and community in time of need.

reply to post by JanusFIN

In USA there is only one real hope: Ron Paul

I will second that.

The things he is teaching will help this country in the future regardless..hopefully a great leader will come from that.

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Welfare dependency

Living high on the hog

using less electricity, oil, gas

no more government subsidizing

Less government across the board

Basically Americans need to become more self-sufficient, responsible, and learn how to help their family, friends, and community in time of need.

Yes, I have never lived high on the hog, but I am not exactly suffering either, I don't think Americans realize even the simple life is pretty good.

reply to post by David9176


Dang, I have to get my act together and go check out some youtubes I guess.

Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
George Washington
Ronald Reagan

Any of those, but sadly, they're not here to see this... Reagan saw the beginning but he didn't see this... He got Gorbachev to end the USSR, now we need him to stop the forthcoming USSA... or someone with his ideals and economic policies