What do you hate about America?, page 3

Originally posted by Muaddib
29 countries huh?, yep is a lot, but have you trully lived in all those countries to see what it is "living" in them?

Okay, I have lived in four, New Zealand for 13 years; Brunei Darussalam for two years; Canada for one and the United States for four.

I was born in Cuba, i lived there for 7 years, and i have visited my family in there in 2001 for a month, that is trully a country under a dictator, an oppressed country.
I lived 10 years in Spain, visited and lived in many parts of Spain and in Lisboa, Portugal for a bit.
Spain back in the 80s was a mix between democracy and socialism, yes there were many good things about it, but there was a lot of bad. In Spain, althou the education system is free up to what in here is high school, after that unless your family has a lot of money and you are an A student, is really difficult to get an education past high school.

I lived in a benevolent dictatorship for two years, yet it still was more free than the United States with emphasis on legislation as opposed to enforcement as is the case in the United States. Also you don't think it's hard for an American born in the ghetto to afford let alone have the incentive to attend a university based on their personal circumstances? Let me reiterate, the American Dream is a farce if you inculde variables.

Crime in Spain is a lot higher than that of the US, the thing is that in Spain the media doesn't announce crime as much as it is done in the US.

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the United States relies upon fear as a mode of control over its citizens.

Now, about our forefathers.....
Unless I am totally wrong, the forefathers of the USA made not only a bill of rights but also provided a means to have a balance on "law" in the "government" when they wrote the Constitution.

But!!! It has been radically modified over the past 200 years.

Anarchy in itself is the "absence" of law, anarchy is "lawlessness", a conditon of no government in a nation... I think i am pretty enlightened about what anarchy and freedom is. Yes, with freedom you should also have responsibilities and "laws" to make sure other people's freedoms and rights are taken in consideration also, otherwise it becomes "anarchy", and anarchy was not the intention of our forefathers. This is why they wrote the Constitution. They did not write the Constitution for the US to be an anarchy...

You are wrong, Anarchy is not about the destruction of law, but the destruction of authority. If you were half as enlightened as you claim to be you would already know this. Read some John Locke, Thomas Jefferson and other anti-federalist literature. Thoreau, McKenna, the list goes on. Anarchism places it's highest value on personal responsibility. Responsibilty for others as well as your own actions.

Your opinion about hating the right of others to hate the US being against freedom falls once again in the category of what is within the "law." It is not only that these people and groups hate the US, but they are "actively" seeking to bring down the government and "the way of life" of the US to "further their own agendas.

It is only because the true values the forefathers envisioned is perverted by modern standards. American communitarian anarchists want to return to the values that America was supposedly agreed to uphold in 1776. Anarchy sees no problem with laws, but who has invented these laws? Power hungry politicians who have distorted the Constitution to further their agendas.

As for adding new laws as our country has grown and progressed, it is only natural. Very few countries keep the original form of their government intact, but they keep adding new laws as their countries progress and grow.

True. But the destruction of personal rights is uncalled for.

About your view of freedom meaning being able to grow pot, or whatever else and do whatever you want, even if it is against the law....in here you have to get back to the "laws" of the country, you have to follow these "laws" otherwise what you want once again is "anarchy" and our forefathers wrote about a form of government where there is a check and balance, still it is a form of "government" with "laws."

Your statement is void since the forefathers are known to have cultivated hemp, an act punishiable with jail time in the 21st century.

Once again...read the Constitution of the United States, because i think you have read something else, and see that our forefathers devised a "form of government" and not an "anarchy."

I hold the constitution as valuable as the bible. I suggest you look into the historical significance vs. the current state of America. You are fooling yourself if you think the forefathers envisioned anything even remotely similar to the curent state of the United States.