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Originally posted by Retseh
Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Sean Penn is one of the only actors that I don't mind seeing speak up on these issues.
He has genuine passion.
And he is usually spot-on in his analysis, at least from my perspective.
Well he certainly had passion when he was beating Madonna.
He has visited Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran, and buddied up with anyone he can find who hates his birth nation. Only North Korea has yet to make his list (because they don't know who he is) and Afghanistan (because the Taliban would kill him).
In the post Katrina aftermath he turned up with a rented photographer to take snaps of him "rescuing" people.
I don't even think he has had a formal college education, but he thinks he's smart enough to be involved in world politics.
The situation with Obama and Chavez must be incredibly confusing for him, he's just another liberal who is lost now that he can't blame Bush for everything.
[edit on 23-3-2009 by Retseh]
Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by Ownification
Nah, don't worry. I'm not going to justify my opinions to you.
"I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the
country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from
second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of
my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
"I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it.
Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought
until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended
animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with
everyone in the military service.
"Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil
interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
"During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents."
Originally posted by rich23
Does Obama know about all this? Probably.
Does Chaves? Oh, you betcha.
But if Obama behaves like it's not going on, he's behaving like an ignoramus and deserves to be called out on it.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
I actually have my money on the position that he really doesnt know. Not that thats any excuse.
...Bush, because he just wasnt that much of a world class thinker
A babe in the political woods with the ability to make a pretty good speech.
For them to need someone so popular, and naive, I suspected we were about to get really reamed domestically.
It wasnt the bailout, they could have pushed that through with anyone...
Obama is here to sugar coat something that is very bad for us. And they havent yet told us what it is, its not the bailout,
Originally posted by rich23
I just don't think you get to be in that position AND still retain your naivete. Apart from anything else, he had his briefing from the Bilderbergers, didn't he? When they put all the press on his plane and he didn't get on board? That's not a trick pulled by a babe in the woods imo.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
President Obama was the senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law school and he taught constitutional law classes....
He knows the constitution ALOT better than you think and many people give him credit for.