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Originally posted by chise61
I'm terribly sorry if it offends you that my sense of humor does not include finding humor in the suffering of animals, not everyone can be cold hearted. Yes things do happen to animals every day, but there is no comparison in the actions of a person catching fish to eat, and a person holding a cat down, dousing it with lighter fluid and starting it on fire for fun.
Well there actually is... Here let me try :
Maybe for the same reason that you throw in the aspect of a fisherman's way of catching a fish. We both know there is no similarity between that and holding a cat down and setting it on fire for fun.
You to me you look like a person who is not honest to herself. Sorry.
It doesn't make me look in the least bit dishonest, many individuals that torture, maim, and kill animals for fun graduate to humans.
Well you'd have to imprison people by the definition of the word, but it should not have to a terrible place as what i see in US prison documentarys. I think it's torturing people and you ask for it when you treat people this way, you ask for em to come out and do bad stuff again.
Explain how we would isolate them from society without imprisoning them ? Do you know of a deserted island that they could be sent to ?
Originally posted by Dark Jester
foxnews.com... teenagers could spend 25 years in prison for allegedly torturing and killing a cat they set on fire when they broke into an apartment in New York City.
Angelo Monderoy, 18, and Matthew Cooper, 17, allegedly broke into a vacant apartment in Brooklyn, N.Y., on or around Oct. 7, 2008. Kings County District Attorney Charles J. Hynes said the pair held the cat down as they poured charcoal lighter fluid on it.
I bet they won't be laughing when they get owned in lock up
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[edit on Sun Mar 22 2009 by Jbird] [/quotAnyone who takes pleasure in torturing anything defenseless , deserves a fate far worse then confinement .
I feel equally sorry for both. I've tried getting my door kicked down and getting beat with my own bass guitar once so i can relate to how awful it must've felt for sure. But i have also been a stupid kid like these boys and i know what drugs will do to a young troubled mind. It's a sad sad situation for everyone and their families and i only hope the best future for them all. The kids getting some help and care, and the victims getting some help and care.
I don't have to know them to know that this was a deliberate act, any fool can see that, you don't hold something down and set it on fire, or beat someone with a cane by accident. You are right i am more emotionally attached to the the victims of their cold hearted brutality. It is your right to be more attached to them if you so chose.
Thankfully it's not your eyes that i have to worry about. I can most assuredly guarantee you that niether one of my sons would ever do such a thing, they were raised to respect all living things. I'm sure you'll thing me a terrible person for this, but i even taught them not to go around breaking branches off trees as they too are living things and supply us with much needed oxygen.
That's good for you! Sadly i can put myself in their shoes because i've been young, stupid, troubled myself and you can bet i am HAPPY that i now am a more reflective mind. My old me is a person i look back at with anger and emberasment.
I'm sorry but i am not capable of putting myself in the shoes of a person that would do something as horrible as that.
Dosn't change the fact that it's also a part of the Christian concept of god But thanks for the knowlegde :p
No actually it's not the Christian version of the concept of God. It's one of the ten commandments that was given to Moses, that would make it part of the Jewish version of the concept of God, and Jewish people are not Christians.
Ah yes ofcourse DOH ofcourse, and here i was thinking that it was gods will LOL silly me huh Thanks for the wakeup call.
You return to earth again because of this little thing called gravity.
I am your humble servant.
I would appreciate if we could leave God, and religion out of this discussion as this is not a thread about either one.
Sadly it was for me! I was gonna pet my hamster but he bid me and kept biting so he was hanging from my finger. So out of anger i threw him in the floor killing him instantly. Then i felt very sad about my actions, and it taught me to count to ten when i'd get upset, because those 10 seconds can save you from doing stuff you regret.
Torturing, and beating other living beings are not a necessary for following the path of spiritual growth.
Better would be finding out why some people act like this, and finding a way to stop it before it happens.
Sorry sometimes i get a little too poetical and assumes people just catch my drift. What i meant dosn't really matter anyway.
I really don't understand what you're getting at here, but my mind is not embaressed by my flesh.
I believe you and i have had a similar debate on a different thread last year. This is just not something that we can find common ground on. You seem to be of the belief that human life is the be all and end all, the most important thing in the world, i'm not.
Originally posted by sliceNodice
Have you all lost your minds?? It is an animal for christs sake!!!! So what if it was 'living...' So are snakes, and turtles.... Would you throw someone in prison for that long for breaking and entering plus killing a garden snake? NO, you wouldn't.... Just because they are cute and furry and make good pets all of a sudden they gain that much status??? YOU LUNATICS! You animal rights people make me so angry, you defy logic and ethics!