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His credentials are extremely relevant in showing that Killtowns "challenge" is... a joke. He has experience and training in the field. He offered his educated opinion on what the crash seen should look like. Truthers, on the other hand have not offered one trained investigator that has come out stating that no plane crashed in Shanksville.
Originally posted by impressme
You are off topic CF this thread is not about some ones credentials and he is not the leading authority of 911
Posted by D.Duck
Killtown has made a new video questioning what happened to Flight 93 at Shanksville and there is an offer at the end.
Interesting to see if someone takes it.
Haha, where did the plane go?
Any comment on the phone calls? Were the relatives lying? Where they faked?
Originally posted by impressme
Yes we were “HOODWINK” all actors in my opinion, all you have is she said and he said.
Mark Bingham called his mother at 09:37:03 from row 25. He reported that the plane had been hijacked by three men who claimed to have a bomb.
Was his mother lying? Was she hoodwinked?
. Jeremy Glick called his wife at 09:37:41 from row 27 and told her the flight was hijacked by three dark-skinned men that looked "Iranian", wearing red bandanas and wielding knives. Glick remained connected until the end of the flight. He reported that the passengers voted whether to "rush" the hijackers.
Was his wife lying? Was she hoodwinked?
Joseph DeLuca called his father at 09:43:03 from row 26 to inform him the flight had been hijacked.
Did Josephs father lie? Was he hoodwinked?
Todd Beamer attempted to call his wife from row 32 at 09:43:48, but was routed to GTE phone operator Lisa D. Jefferson. Beamer told the operator that the flight was hijacked and the pilots were on the floor dead or dying. He revealed one of the hijackers had a red belt with a bomb strapped to his waist.
Linda Gronlund called her sister, Elsa Strong, at 09:46:05 and left her a message saying there were "men with a bomb".
Did Elsa lie to us? Or did Ms. Gronlund lie to her sister? Who was hoodwinked here?
Flight attendant CeeCee Lyles called her husband at 09:47:57 and left him a message saying the plane had been hijacked.
CeeCee hoodwinked us?
Marion Britton called her friend, Fred Fiumano, at 09:49:12. Fiumano recalled, "she said, 'We’re gonna. They’re gonna kill us, you know, We’re gonna die.’ And I told her, 'Don’t worry, they hijacked the plane, they’re gonna take you for a ride, you go to their country, and you come back. You stay there for vacation.' You don’t know what to say—what are you gonna say? I kept on saying the same things, ‘Be calm.’ And she was crying and - you know - more or less crying and screaming and yelling."
I feel for Mr. Fiumano, he tried his best to keep his friend calm. Are you saying he was lied to??
Flight attendant Sandra Bradshaw called her husband at 09:50:04 and told him she was preparing scalding water to throw at the hijackers.
Was Mrs. Bradshaw not on the plane? Who called her husband?
Passenger Lauren Grandcolas called her husband twice, once before take off and once during the hijacking. He missed both of her calls. She then passed her phone to Honor Elizabeth Wainio.
Wainio called her stepmother at 09:53:43 and concluded, four and a half minutes later, by saying, "I have to go. They're breaking into the cockpit. I love you."
Originally posted by impressme
Sounds like she hoodwinked you eh! Nothing but hearsay
I believe Jeremy Glick wife hoodwink you to,
however, I never fell for that fallacy after I found out that all these statements came from the FBI
infact, the FBI has lied to us about everything that contains to 911.
The more we dig, the more lies we uncover ain’t that right CF.
if the FBI lied to the public about one phone call then, I am sure they lied about the rest to make their case of highjackers on the planes to look good.
You are only parroting what the Press, and News media have claimed,
where infact the original statements came from the FBI, nothing but hearsay. You have no proof that these phone calls are real. (nothing)
All hearsay from yours truly the FBI,
right, and the terrorist walked right through the metal detectors at the airport wearing a bomb strap to his waist lol
But I have to admit it was a nice touch from the FBI to say that after our military shot down that plane.
Again, you keep parroting the News media reports (nothing but hearsay.)
CF are you that gullible do you believe in everything that you are told by the New media where do you think all this info came from to begin with eh!
Jane Pauley sat down with many of the victims' loved ones for an extraordinary first-hand account of what happened based on their phone conversations with those on board. On the fifth anniversary, Pauley again reports on the flight that fought back.
Flight attendant CeeCee Lyles......
Quoted from the FBI, just hear say, now this is worth a hand wave.
I am sure if I could hear these phone calls, (cough) they where probably done by the best-paid actors that money can buy. Really, CF this is all hearsay, its all been dream up by our lovely FBI.
infact, the FBI has lied to us about everything that contains to 911
I think this statement shows who is being disingenuous.
The more we dig, the more lies we uncover ain’t that right CF
I think the more you post the more......
This is a discussion about flight 93. Please start a new thread about the Pentagon. That being said, your statement is nothing but a perfect example of poisoning the well fallacy.
I think the more you post the more......
This again, shows your lack of knowledge pertaining to 911.
What? Now you are claiming it was shot down? Sir, you need to stick to a conspiracy. You can't claim it was shot down and then claim there isn't any evidence of a plane.
Um, not exactly. The message she left on her home voice mail was released a few years ago. Wow... you aren't very good at this are you?
Let me know if you have any questions regarding flight 93. You have not done a very good job so far. Heck, you haven't even learned how to spell hijacker.
Originally posted by LaBTop
You really think so?
NOT :
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I can not tell you why those two calls stayed connected. Instead of assuming something sinister was going on, why not contact GTE? Why not find someone familiar with the airphones?
What about ALL the other calls? Tell me about all the other people that I posted about above. Do you LaBtop think they were actors like the other poster does?
Originally posted by impressme
infact, the FBI has lied to us about everything that contains to 911
Really! How am I being disingenuous?
Show me where I have lied?
CF you are the one that has been disingenuous in here. You strayed this thread off topic, I was only answering your questions that you ask of me, nothing more.
However, you are not satisfied with my answers so now you have resorted to attacking my character.
I think the more you post the more......
CF why do you continue to “assume” what kind of knowledge I have. Why do you “always” try to put your self above everyone in here with your rants?
You must have real proof that the plane was not shot down, that supports science, right.
You have hand wave so much evidence, in supporting the OS that, you “forgot” the debris field was eight miles wide in Shanksville.
Call it what you want but that does not consist of an airplane crashing straight down in the ground and that my friend is a FACT.
Any paid actor can record a message. (Just hearsay)
CF, in your desperate attempts to prove me wrong, now you have stoop to attacking my grammar, how mature.
If you and I are in a debate over the Shanksville crash, then so far you have done nothing but parrot the OS, which everyone already knows. However most people will agree with me on this one, the investigation in to the Shanksville crash is highly suspicious, and stinks of cover-up and the OS about the Shanksville crash, (does not fit the evidences) and that’s a fact.
Originally posted by impressme
No but I do,