Public schools teach Muslim, not Christian, religion

reply to post by Salt of the Earth


Interesting.

So all other religions besides yours are false I take it?
What about Buddhism?
Hinduism?

Is there some other vast conspiracy with those as well?

Are you people even reading this article?

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Religious Scripture within Education system.

It's trying to insinuate that some vast-ranging Muslim conspiracy exists to infiltrate our children's minds, according to THREE TEXTBOOKS that they claim present a glorified view of Islam, which they admit may not even be in circulation anymore.

Stop the goddamn Holy Book-thumping talk and take the time to read this nonsense.

It's tried and true partisan, right-wing, fear-mongering.

From the article:

Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.

Read the last line and then tell me that you still think this article is seriously trying probe so-called "Muslim bias" within our education system.

"Diversity itself is not to be celebrated"?

This is right-wing propaganda at best and a concerted effort to demonise Muslims at worst.

[edit on 22/3/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Originally posted by awake_awoke
reply to post by Salt of the Earth

 

Interesting.

So all other religions besides yours are false I take it?
What about Buddhism?
Hinduism?

Is there some other vast conspiracy with those as well?

Yes, they are false. If they were true, I would believe in them.

And I do agree with the Godfather of Conspiracy in all his points.

The Muslim religion is most like Christianity, and I would even say it is closer in many ways to Christianity than is Catholicism, that Catholicism is more likened to present day Talmudic Cabalist Judaism.

I believe in the Tribulation under the New World Order that the antichrist will be the Jewish Messiah, as Jesus said the Jews would believe in a "man" who comes after him, and that the false prophet will be the pope. Some people have it reversed, but that's my take on it.

The person who said something about Muslims flying planes into their living room needs to read up online about the Dancing Israelis, also the USS Liberty and stop and consider, que bono, who benefits from 9/11. Israel benefitted big time. Consider who is taking down our country via the Federal Reserve (British Zionists), and stop letting the controlled Zionist media propagandize you into hating people who have done you no harm and who hope to get you to fight and kill and maybe die for them.



[edit on 22-3-2009 by Salt of the Earth]

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Also, I would be very careful when trying to pass off "American Thinker" as a partial, credible source on religious tolerance.

These guys are nothing but another right-wing, neo-con thinkthank organisation with a clear agenda of Muslim discrimination.

Take a look at the About Us section:

Staff

Editor and publisher Thomas Lifson

News editor Ed Lasky

Chief political correspondent Richard Baehr

Chief investigative correspondent Clarice Feldman

Submissions editor Larrey Anderson

Deputy editor Mike Lee

Consulting editor J.R. Dunn

Thomas Lifson... A Democrat by birth, he became more conservative in adulthood as reality taught him that dreams of perfecting human society always run smack into human nature.

Richard Baehr... Richard was recently named a Visiting Fellow of the Jewish Policy Center, and was a panelist for a Jewish Policy Center Forum along with Michael Medved, John Podhoretz and David Horowitz.

Rick Moran... He is also Chicago editor of Pajamas Media and is proprietor of the website Right Wing Nuthouse.

American Thinker was also prominently involved in the right-wing, Obama smear campaign, insintuating he was Muslim, anti-Semitic, and Marxist.

Some VERY interesting information about the founder of American Thinker on here:

At the fulcrum of this effort is a little-known blogger from Northbrook, Illinois, named Ed Lasky, whose articles on AmericanThinker.com have done more than anything to give the smear campaign an air of respectability. Lasky co-founded AmericanThinker.com in 2003, modeling it after Powerline, a popular conservative blog. Before that, he had frequently written letters to newspapers defending Israel and criticizing the Palestinians. Though his background remains a mystery, Lasky didn't hide his neoconservative leanings. He wrote a blog post in 2004 titled "Why American Jews Must Vote for Bush," made three separate donations to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, contributed $1,000 to Tom DeLay and has given more than $50,000 to GOP candidates and causes since 2000. Lasky sits on the board of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, headed by Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein, whose close affiliations with Christian-right operatives like Ralph Reed has made Eckstein a controversial figure in the Jewish community.

www.thenation.com...

So again, be discerning in your use of sources.

Their is NOTHING wrong with the source and your desire to label them "right wing" and "neo cons" is telling of your own issues with compartmentalizing people into stereo types.

Obama Not Muslim? Yes he is, and his roomates from college were also Muslim. His campaign mamager is iranian and a muslim, his friend Tony "the racketeer" Rezko = Muslim. If you read Obama's book you would know it was his wife who suggested he join a Christian Church to make him more electable. Not sure the Black Theology he was getting from Rev Wright is Biblical when someone screaming at the top their lungs GD America, that's in the bible" I have never seen it in there.

Obama's favorite Author? Saul Alinsky, a Communist pure and simple.
In Illinois he was a member of the Democrats for Socialism and the "New Party" also socialist. It was a fascinating subject to Obama and an interest he shared with his then Girlfriend Michelle now his wife who said she was never proud of this country anymore then Barack was. Both of them didn't love America. Not the way it is anyway, they love the America they want to change this country into and that America you can BET will be as close to Marxism as they can get away with.

If someone was smearing anyone it was Obama smearing them as he did when he said McCain was lying about his legislation to teach Kindergartners age appropriate sex education and transgenderism. After it was discovered this addendum to the bill originally written in the Illinois senate was true, Obama said it was about teaching kids about child predators even though no such language about child predators shows up anywhere in the bill.

reply to post by Aermacchi


Your kidding right?

Wave goodbye to any shred of credibility you had because it just flew out of the window faster than you can say "GOP".

Trying to lecture me on stereotypes and then characterising Obama as a "Muslim" within the same paragraph because his roommates in college were Muslims, and his campaign manager happens to be one.

Lol, does your foot hurt? Because you just blew a hole in it.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Are you people even reading this article?

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Religious Scripture within Education system.

It's trying to insinuate that some vast-ranging Muslim conspiracy exists to infiltrate our children's minds, according to THREE TEXTBOOKS that they claim present a glorified view of Islam, which they admit may not even be in circulation anymore.

Stop the goddamn Holy Book-thumping talk and take the time to read this nonsense.

It's tried and true partisan, right-wing, fear-mongering.

From the article:

Discuss what they're being taught, and be prepared to teach them the truth. Teach them about Jesus, or Israel, or both. Once they're old enough to understand, teach them about 9/11. Teach them about Sharia and jihad and oppressed women and terrorism and honor killings and barbaric execution methods. Teach them that only just and nurturing cultures deserve to be celebrated, not diversity itself.

Read the last line and then tell me that you still think this article is seriously trying probe so-called "Muslim bias" within our education system.

"Diversity itself is not to be celebrated"?

This is right-wing propaganda at best and a concerted effort to demonise Muslims at worst.

[edit on 22/3/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

America got to where it is by UNITY NOT Diversity! You wanted to be American, YOU learned english, you saw a Nativity on display and got offended you got used to it. Today everything is ass backwards and diversity is doing what it does best, DIVIDES US.

Tolerance has become a soundbyte to say you cannot criticize anyone but you can bash the Bible and Christians with impunity. We tolerate criminality and are asked to tolerate gay marriage as if it had something to do with equal rights when all of us have to abide by the same rules with marriage as anyone else. You can offend me using that word GD as you have and I am supposed to look the otherway.

Ok but Be Advised: I only turn the other cheek

ONCE

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
reply to post by Aermacchi

 

Your kidding right?

Wave goodbye to any shred of credibility you had because it just flew out of the window faster than you can say "GOP".

Trying to lecture me on stereotypes and then characterising Obama as a "Muslim" within the same paragraph because his roommates in college were Muslims, and his campaign manager happens to be one.

Lol, does your foot hurt? Because you just blew a hole in it.

READ HIS BOOK! LOOK AT HIS NAME! HIS FAMILY! HIS FATHER!

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU! The Mosque he attended with those roomates was for what? Crediblility has Nothing to do with your inability to believe the truth and everything to do with denying it.

Me? Your Ignorance

DENIED!

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Aermacchi]

reply to post by Aermacchi


I'm sorry, did you call Obama a Muslim?


Did you read any Alinsky yourself in college?
Many did.

reply to post by Aermacchi


Keep pretending all you want people are going to take all your unverified claims at face value.

I knew this thread would attract the right-wing nutjobs from the woodwork sooner or later, I just thought I could have a civilised debate before that happened.

Somebody tipped off the Right-wing goon squad once again. And with that this thread descends into utter madness.

Later.

If Obama was really a Muslim he would not have been groomed by the Jewish Mafia and the Bilderbergs and British Zionists for the past 30 years that he would be installed as president.

If Obama were really a Muslim he would not have his chief of staff be one Rahm "The Cruel" Emanuel, Mossad, the one who cracks his knuckles in cabinent meetings in front of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and when Obama asks him nicely to stop goes and cracks them in his face -- letting everybody know who REALLY runs America today.

Obama is said to be America's first Jewish president, the same way they said Bill Clinton was America's first Black president.

Obama has stepped up the phony war on terror, has now taken the war into Pakistan, escalated things in Afghanistan and Iraq, and has reneged on all his promises to get us out of Iraq.

Anybody watch Alex Jones latest documentary just released the 15th, the Obama Deception?

Obama works for Wall Street, for the British Zionists, for the Fourth Reich, for the New World Order.

Obama is the frontman for the Zionist plan to blow the Muslims off the planet and to start WWIII. (he'll be underground in a fancy DUMB with his Satanic bankster friends while the rest of us are radioactively fried to a crisp, since there are no bomb shelters in existence here in America).

The Muslims are all going to die, and we are all goign to die with them.

And we can thank the murdering, thieving, Satan worshipping Zionists for that.

Originally posted by awake_awoke
reply to post by Aermacchi

 

I'm sorry, did you call Obama a Muslim?


Did you read any Alinsky yourself in college?
Many did.

Yes I called him a Muslim, he isn't a practicing Muslim anymore but many say he is a closet muslim these days. I certainly do NOT believe that church he went to in chicago was a Christian Church and was more about militant activism against rich white America. I sometimes wonder why this info about banks paying bonus's is leaked to the press so easily when Obama could vilify Capitalism and Banks like Rev Wright did. I am from Chicago and grew up not far from Obama's House. My Father used to be the Chief investigator for the attorney generals office there.

Our whole family is in law enforcement or Lawyers and we all know what Barack was doing there and one of the many things he did was attend Muslim Mosques but that was back when he was a community agitator. Now called "organizers". Yes I have read Alinsky's book and was surprised to hear so much of it in Obama's speeches.

Out of Curioisty, just what do you think a "Zionist" is?

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Aermacchi]

Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
If Obama was really a Muslim he would not have been groomed by the Jewish Mafia and the Bilderbergs and British Zionists for the past 30 years that he would be installed as president.

If Obama were really a Muslim he would not have his chief of staff be one Rahm "The Cruel" Emanuel, Mossad, the one who cracks his knuckles in cabinent meetings in front of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and when Obama asks him nicely to stop goes and cracks them in his face -- letting everybody know who REALLY runs America today.

Obama is said to be America's first Jewish president, the same way they said Bill Clinton was America's first Black president.

Obama has stepped up the phony war on terror, has now taken the war into Pakistan, escalated things in Afghanistan and Iraq, and has reneged on all his promises to get us out of Iraq.

Anybody watch Alex Jones latest documentary just released the 15th, the Obama Deception?

Obama works for Wall Street, for the British Zionists, for the Fourth Reich, for the New World Order.

Obama is the frontman for the Zionist plan to blow the Muslims off the planet and to start WWIII. (he'll be underground in a fancy DUMB with his Satanic bankster friends while the rest of us are radioactively fried to a crisp, since there are no bomb shelters in existence here in America).

The Muslims are all going to die, and we are all goign to die with them.

And we can thank the murdering, thieving, Satan worshipping Zionists for that.

I agree with all of this but when you look at who it was that paid for his harvard scholarship Billionare Muslim and his friend Rhashid his cousin Raul Odinga. His father was a Muslin turned Atheist which is what I believe Obama is. I think if he were either one Christian or Muslim and actually practicing his faith, he would not have been so much for the infanticide that was going on in Illinois

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Keep pretending all you want people are going to take all your unverified claims at face value.

Keep pretending all you want people are going to take all your unverified claims at face value.

Aermacchi's translation = I hate it when I'm wrong

I knew this thread would attract the right-wing nutjobs from the woodwork sooner or later, I just thought I could have a civilised debate before that happened.

Aermacchi's translation = I hate it when I'm wrong

Somebody tipped off the Right-wing goon squad once again. And with that this thread descends into utter madness.

Aermacchi's translation = I hate it when I'm wrong

reply to post by haika


Very good references Haika. The Palestinians have always existed in Palestine which was made up of a conglomerate of city states. The earliest European reference to the Palestinians was by the Greek historian Herodotus in his writing of an event several hundred years earlier.

So by describing Jesus as Palestinian there is total truth to this. Even the patron saint of England, St. George, is Palestinian and not an Israeli or an Askhenazi.

Furthermore, teaching Muslim matters to Muslim children in public schools for which their Muslim parents pay taxes is perfectly acceptable. After all, Christmas and Easter is celebrated in the public school system even associated holiday breaks.

Isn't the motto at the heart of democracy 'no taxation without representation'? Yet we find certain elements in the body politics trying to erase a faith from the community but the moment someone questions their motivation a landslide of slanderous allegations is let loose. Didn't we recently see certain groups complaining about Christmas celebrations and trees in public spaces. You will find that the group most in favour of Christian religiosity are in fact Muslims.

reply to post by Aermacchi


You are wrong about Obama. He is a puppet working for the Zionists. He cares nothing for anybody but himself and will say and do whatever they tell him to as long as he can be president and be The One. His handler is Rahm The Cruel Emanuel, Mossad. He has escalated the war in Afghanistan and started a new one with Pakistan. He will nuke Iran when he's told to, and then retreat to the DUMBs with his Freemason Zionist friends while the rest of us sizzle away since there are no bomb shelters for any of us.

The Muslims are going to be attacked by the Zionists and we are all going to die. Does that make you happy?

Check out Alex Jones latest documentary the Obama Deception and find out what's really going on. You need to wake up.
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Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to post by haika

 

Very good references Haika. The Palestinians have always existed in Palestine which was made up of a conglomerate of city states. The earliest European reference to the Palestinians was by the Greek historian Herodotus in his writing of an event several hundred years earlier.

So by describing Jesus as Palestinian there is total truth to this. Even the patron saint of England, St. George, is Palestinian and not an Israeli or an Askhenazi.

Furthermore, teaching Muslim matters to Muslim children in public schools for which their Muslim parents pay taxes is perfectly acceptable. After all, Christmas and Easter is celebrated in the public school system even associated holiday breaks.

Isn't the motto at the heart of democracy 'no taxation without representation'? Yet we find certain elements in the body politics trying to erase a faith from the community but the moment someone questions their motivation a landslide of slanderous allegations is let loose. Didn't we recently see certain groups complaining about Christmas celebrations and trees in public spaces. You will find that the group most in favour of Christian religiosity are in fact Muslims.

I understand the logic behind the "Muslim Taxpayers" and that is just another reason for tolerance while Christian taxpayers have no voice in the matter and Books like the Bible have to be removed as well as Prayer and saying "under God" in the pledge of allegiance"

equal rights for all I guess,, All but Christians and Christmas, it is asked of students they not offend anyone and say Happy Holidays or Happy Festivus. and NOT merry Christmas as it may offend someone.

Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
reply to post by Aermacchi

 

You are wrong about Obama. He is a puppet working for the Zionists. He cares nothing for anybody but himself and will say and do whatever they tell him to as long as he can be president and be The One. His handler is Rahm The Cruel Emanuel, Mossad. He has escalated the war in Afghanistan and started a new one with Pakistan. He will nuke Iran when he's told to, and then retreat to the DUMBs with his Freemason Zionist friends while the rest of us sizzle away since there are no bomb shelters for any of us.

The Muslims are going to be attacked by the Zionists and we are all going to die. Does that make you happy?

Check out Alex Jones latest documentary the Obama Deception and find out what's really going on. You need to wake up.
video.google.com..." target='_blank' class='tabOff'/>

video.google.com...

If I am wrong about Obama so are you! Didn't you read my post ??

I Greed with you! but no one is going to tell me he wasn't Muslim Growing up and in College. He went to a Muslim School for petes sake. I saw the Alex Jones Video and Alex Jones is a sensationalist who makes a lot of fine points but he has never seen Barack Obama the way I have.

He has never seen Barack Obama the way many others have including those in the Gay district of chitown. What MOST people believe about Barack Obama is what they want to believe but most of his backround with the exception of his place of Birth is in his Book and is pretty accurate. Even down to his getting crack when he could afford it.

I have nothing against Masons and that stuff I see about Masons is a load of garbage. I have been to Iran and I think they were some of the most Gracious most freindly people I have ever met but they have a hatred of Jews and they have been brainwashed into thinking the Holocaust was a hoax. They get taught things you would have to see to believe and if anyone nukes anybody I would say Israel should nuke them because Iran has every intention of nuking Israel as soon as they can get the Bomb. That may be any day now.


You still haven't answered my question what is a Zionist to you?

The Muslims are going to be attacked by the Zionists and we are all going to die. Does that make you happy?

Where are you getting this stuff? Sylvia Brown? Your Crystal Ball?

The only part of that I can say is a fact is when you say we are all going to die. Yeah someday we ARE all going to die, so what?






[edit on 22-3-2009 by Aermacchi]

Originally posted by Aermacchi

I have nothing against Masons and that stuff I see about Masons is a load of garbage. I have been to Iran and I think they were some of the most Gracious most freindly people I have ever met but they have a hatred of Jews and they have been brainwashed into thinking the Holocaust was a hoax. They get taught things you would have to see to believe and if anyone nukes anybody I would say Israel should nuke them because Iran has every intention of nuking Israel as soon as they can get the Bomb. That may be any day now.

This is shocking and sick that you would say this, dismiss the lives of all these people so callously. Whether they think the holocaust was a hoax or not, what does that have to do with anything? You think somebody needs to die if they don't believe 6.5 million Jews died in the holocaust? Are you aware that the curator of auschwitz has replaced the plaque announcing the death of 4.5 million Jews, ordered put there by Lenin (a Jew), that the new curator now claims it was 450,000 people died there and not all of them were Jews?

Maybe we should go nuke the curator and the people in Poland for doing that?

Who cares if it was 6.5 million or what number? Lord knows it was close to 100 million other people who died in the Communist gulags and purges between Mao and Lenin and Stalin. And who funded all of these people? The British Zionists, the same ones who start all the wars and fund both sides.

Originally posted by Aermacchi
You still haven't answered my question what is a Zionist to you?

A Zionist is somebody like you who is willing to blow up the planet so Israel can rule what's left.

Originally posted by Aermacchi
The only part of that I can say is a fact is when you say we are all going to die. Yeah someday we ARE all going to die, so what?

Be nice to die propped up in bed with our children and grandchildren around us, not sizzled away in a nuclear holocaust or by bunker busters landing on us, or by a soldier raping and torturing our kids to death in front of us, or by getting waterboarded to death, or starved to death, or whatever it is they are going to do to us who oppose their devilish schemes to depopulate the earth.

And if you are in law enforcement, I feel sorry for anybody who has to deal with you directly with your low opinion of human life and your willingness to nuke away whole countries of people you admit are kind and wonderful people but if they don't believe in the holocaust they need to be nuked.

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Salt of the Earth]

reply to post by Aermacchi

So what? ..Perhaps Obama is a Muslim.. so what?.. what's wrong with that? ..Whether he is or not, I fail to see your point.

Originally posted by Salt of the Earth


This is shocking and sick that you would say this, dismiss the lives of all these people so callously. Whether they think the holocaust was a hoax or not, what does that have to do with anything? You think somebody needs to die if they don't believe 6.5 million Jews died in the holocaust? Are you aware that the curator of auschwitz has replaced the plaque announcing the death of 4.5 million Jews, ordered put there by Lenin (a Jew), that the new curator now claims it was 450,000 people died there and not all of them were Jews?

Maybe we should go nuke the curator and the people in Poland for doing that?

Who cares if it was 6.5 million or what number? Lord knows it was close to 100 million other people who died in the Communist gulags and purges between Mao and Lenin and Stalin. And who funded all of these people? The British Zionists, the same ones who start all the wars and fund both sides.
A Zionist is somebody like you who is willing to blow up the planet so Israel can rule what's left.

Look kid yeah that's right, I said kid, because I doubt with certainty you are over 15 years of age. I have been around the world TWICE and have been to the middle east, HAVE YOU?

You saw an alex Jones video and you swallowed everything he said lock stock and barrel. I watched it too but seeing how your inference of that videos's information has been sensationalized to mean the sky is falling and we are all doomed says NOTHING to the mis-representation you have besmirched me and my post with.

EXAMPLES:

Whether they think the holocaust was a hoax or not, what does that have to do with anything?

I never said a damn thing about what I thought of the holocaust, did I?

NOPE I did NOT. All I said is that Iranians are taught this and whether I mentioned this or NOT, it is clear the context for speaking about it is to illustrate the anti semitism that continues to this day and YOU are as much a bigot anti-semite as i have ever seen on these boards in addition to your mis quotes and mis representation of my posts! When you ask me a question, WAIT till I answer it and DO NOT assume tghe answer for me then ridicule the answer you assume I would have made as if i made it about questions i never answered GOT IT!

The Next time you want to give anyone a reprisal for what you see as having nothing to do with the thread, DO NOT ADD YOUR OWN ADDITIONS TO IT THEN!

Examples

Lord knows it was close to 100 million other people who died in the Communist gulags and purges between Mao and Lenin and Stalin.

Show me where I said I think people need to die if they do not believe 6.5 million jews died in the holocaust.

EXAMPLES:

You think somebody needs to die if they don't believe 6.5 million Jews died in the holocaust?

Copy Paste the exact quote for me and if you cannot then you owe me an apology!

When I ask you for a definition of what Zionist means, do NOT assume I am British and have funded all the wars there have ever been as you associated me with them using the logical fallacy of guilt by association

I asked you to define Zionist:

EXAMPLES: Your definition

And who funded all of these people? The British Zionists, the same ones who start all the wars and fund both sides.

Just because you think someone has got it wrong doesn't mean they are wrong and doesn't mean Alex Jones is right and it certainly doesn't mean they are a Zionist! Got IT!

Example:

A Zionist is somebody like you who is willing to blow up the planet so Israel can rule what's left.

This next quote doesn't even merit a rebuttal, but I will suggest you see a Doctor, I hear lithium may help for delusions and schizophrenia.

Be nice to die propped up in bed with our children and grandchildren around us, not sizzled away in a nuclear holocaust or by bunker busters landing on us, or by a soldier raping and torturing our kids to death in front of us, or by getting waterboarded to death, or starved to death, or whatever it is they are going to do to us who oppose their devilish schemes to depopulate the earth.

I am not a Doctor but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you are paranoid and your incessant mantra "The Zionists are coming The zionists are coming, LIONS and TIGERS and BEARS Oh MY! " is enough to give my assumption a better than average percentage of being drop dead accurate.


Either get your arguments accurate honest and straight or don't engage in them as you only display a willingness to argue and NOT the ability to argue.

EXAMPLE:

your willingness to nuke away whole countries of people you admit are kind and wonderful people but if they don't believe in the holocaust they need to be nuked.

Last chance kid: I see you putting words in my mouth once more Ill alert the Mods for political baiting. Where did I say ANYTHING about me saying some place should be nuked for not believeing the holocaust.

SHOW ME THE QUOTE!

You cannot and you owe me another apology.

DO NOT do it AGAIN!

Got It?

It is posts like yours that give Videos like Alex Jones and those who support his cause a bad name and is one of the reasons I don't believe you are even serious about the asinine opinions you just gave. I have seen the same thing done at JREF where skeptics had asked me to use tailor made memberships with pre written posts that made wild accusation with even wilder conspiracy theories to cast the 911 truth movement as tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs. In other words, JREF people were asking people they thought to be skeptics to pose as truthers to make them look like crazy people. The tactics they had listed are similar to the kind of post you just made and I just responded to.


It is called Dis Information.






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