South Africa Ignores "Corrective" Rape Attacks Against Lesbians

South Africa Ignores "Corrective" Rape Attacks Against Lesbians

www.guardian.co.uk

The partially clothed body of Eudy Simelane, former star of South Africa's acclaimed Banyana Banyana national female football squad, was found in a creek in a park in Kwa Thema, on the outskirts of Johannesburg. Simelane had been gang-raped and brutally beaten before being stabbed 25 times in the face, chest and legs. As well as being one of South Africa's best-known female footballers, Simelane was a voracious equality rights campaigner and one of the first women to live openly as a lesbian in Kwa Thema.

Her brutal murder took place last April, and since then a tide of violence against lesbian women in South Africa has continued to rise. Human rights campaigners say it is characterised by what they call "corrective rape" committed by men behind the guise of trying to "cure" lesbian women of their sexual orientation.

Now, a report by the international NGO ActionAid, backed by the South African Human Rights Commission, condemns the culture of impunity around these crimes, which it says are going unrecognised by the state and unpunished by the legal system.

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It doesn't matter what your opinion about homosexuality is... this is wrong... this is wrong... this is wrong.

Regardless of your sexual preferences; straight, gay or bisexual, we are all human beings first and foremost and deserving of the same respect.

To think that to brutally rape someone would somehow correct their sexual orientation is not only insane but deeply and profoundly offensive...

... we are all of God's children regardless of sex, sexual orientation or race.

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Disgusting, but not so shocking.

Thabo Mbeki used to ignore the rape of babies by men with AIDS...

He also denied that AIDS exists.

en.wikipedia.org...

Jacob Zuma claimed that having a shower would be enough to prevent him from catching HIV after he raped an HIV infected woman.

en.wikipedia.org...


The entire political leadership of South Africa is a shambles. The ANC is destroying Mandela's vision of South Africa.

Frankly, nothing the ANC does any more surprises me. Its just a damn shame that South Africans just replaced the white leadership with even more corrupt, stupid ANC leaders; then continued to support the ANC leaders just because they were black.

Anyway, they are a young democracy. Perhaps one day they will learn.

The nation needs Mandela to step forward and take the reins again or at the very least speak out against the idiocy....

.... but then again what do you expect when you keep half the country ignorant and uneducated for decades?

reply to post by grover


Nobody kept the black majority uneducated. Under apartheid, each race had its own area.

The injustice was that white areas got the most funding and the best infrastructure. However there was nothing stopping blacks from building up their own areas.

The South African "Indians" had their own Bantustan around Durban, in KwaZulu Natal. Their university (University of Durban-Westville) was highly regarded, and was fairly advanced considering the oppression coming from the white government. However what do you think happened after independence and integration? The ANC pressured the university to accept blacks even though they did not meet the minimum standards, and the entire institution's quality and stature fell overnight.

Why did the black South African races (Khoi, Zulu etc) not start their own institutions?

It's easy to blame a lack of education, and white oppression as the root causes for this kind of behaviour, but ultimately the blame is shared by all.

reply to post by grover


I agree Mandela needs to step forward. However your statement...

.... but then again what do you expect when you keep half the country ignorant and uneducated for decades?

suggests that only uneducated people rape and do these types of things. This couldn't be further from the truth. People have to be educated and even conditioned to think this type of behavior is ok. When you or I was a teen and in our sexual prime and exploring and all that was there a voice in your head saying "just take it, don't ask just take, then when you are done, stab the girl in the face!" NO. This is a product of an ideology, religion, and hatred of women gaining rights. This is prevalent all throughout Africa.

reply to post by djvexd


I agree with you that the people doing this have to be educated in some way to think these atrocities are ok.. however they've obviously a very deluded version of human nature.

Its just plain wrong... makes you feel sick that someone can suffer so much pain over a choice in their life that affects nobody else and no-one else should have a say in

this obvioulsy is is directly related to lack of education.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
this obvioulsy is is directly related to lack of education.

Not necessarily. Just because people are educated doesn't mean they won't continue to hate what is different. Education means there a greater chance of acceptance of diversity, but it's not a guarantee.

Unfortunately Nelson Mandela is a very old man and he deserves to be retired now. He has set an excellent example to the ANC (and everybody in the world, for that matter), but the ANC fails dismally in even understanding the basic principles being taught by this great man.

The ANC is a disgrace to the legacy of Nelson Mandela, but we are not talking about the ANC here, but about violence directed towards individuals who differ in opinion from other people. In South Africa everybody boasts about the fantastic democracy they experience now, but it is clear that they do not even understand the basic principles of a democracy.

Their barbaric attacks against anyone who oposes their ideas of right and wrong, is disgusting. I will not even touch the racial aspect here, because the black people suffer the most under the hands of their black brothers. To see and experience it, is absolutely disgusting.

If someone does not force his sexual orientation on you, how can you attack him, just because his sexual orientation differs from yours? It is something that troubled me for a long time. It is almost the same as some religious groups. They justify themsevles to eliminate you if you do not believe in the same religion.

It really does not make sense at all....



[edit on 13-3-2009 by Ysterlong]

Originally posted by sos37
Not necessarily. Just because people are educated doesn't mean they won't continue to hate what is different. Education means there a greater chance of acceptance of diversity, but it's not a guarantee.

But they don't hate what is different, they think that being different is a disease that needs treatement.

I've been to India many times, there's many educated and non-educated people there.
I've seen how uneducated people think and behave, perhaps it's a different manifestation than how uneducated people behave in the western world.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
this obvioulsy is is directly related to lack of education.

Mbeki was educated at the University of London; he was awarded an economics degree. Uneducated? Hardly.

This is not an issue about the lack of knowledge education; its a question of a lack of "moral" education. Note that the moral in question (not to rape and attack someone because they are gay) is not universal. We find it backwards, but others may applaud it as it fits with their moral system.

[edit on 13-3-2009 by 44soulslayer]

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Disgusting, but not so shocking.


Jacob Zuma claimed that having a shower would be enough to prevent him from catching HIV after he raped an HIV infected woman.

en.wikipedia.org...

What do you expect of a country where its next president - Jacob Zuma - is currently under investigation for fraud and corruption. Where his buddy (Shabir Shaik) was sentenced to jail for assisting him in committing the crime he is accused of...Jacob Zuma has no formal education - apparently he has finished grade 5 in school, but nobody has seen proof of any records in that regard. Unfortunatly its all about ideology and no attention is given to competence..

With Jacob Zuma as the role model for males in South Africa, you can expect things like this to happen.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

But they don't hate what is different, they think that being different is a disease that needs treatement.

I've been to India many times, there's many educated and non-educated people there.
I've seen how uneducated people think and behave, perhaps it's a different manifestation than how uneducated people behave in the western world.

Thanks for that insight - I never thought about it like that. Hopefully I can start to understand how the heads of these sick people work..

reply to post by djvexd


No I am not suggesting that only uneducated people do these things I am saying that aparthid was a separate but hardly equal system and when people are not educated or poorly educated then thinking something like washing AIDS off or corrective rapes are viable options.

There are plenty of uneducated people full of grace and compassion just as there are many highly educated ones without a trace of either... but then how educated one is only partly related to schooling.

Rape is a way of life in Africa in general, and comes its grand peak in South Africa.

What a GREAT place.

I agree Grover.
I don't much like the idea of homosexuality.
But no people should be raped or beaten.

On the upside - with African men so much into stealing aid, raping, making laws condoning rape, pirating, killing girls and women, destroying their reproductive organs with their sense of entitlement, beating their wives, taking 11 year old as wives, refusing to work and beating their wives to give them all their money and food......

We aren't EVER going to have to worry about them EVER being a competitor in the world about ANYTHING. They are WAY too busy already.

it seems that sexual violence towards girls and women is quite 'normal' in south africa, this corrective rape is just another reason that certain men can justify acting out their 'dark' side and use women for what ever they want. sadly such hatred and anger towards the other half of the population can only be detrimental (sp?) on society as a whole....we all know what john lennon said......www.john-lennon.com... www.worldnetdaily.com...

Child-rape epidemic
in South Africa
Fueled by widespread belief that sex with virgin cures AIDS
Posted: December 26, 2001
1:00 am Eastern
By Anthony C. LoBaido
© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com

According to the latest report by South Africa's Police Service, children are the victims of 41 percent of all rapes and attempted rapes reported in the country. Over 15 percent of all reported rapes are against children under 11, and another 26 percent against children 12-17. For the year 2000, some 58 children were raped or the victims of rape attempts in South Africa every single day.

The trend is worsening. Babies as young as only a few months old are being raped almost daily. Many black South African men infected with AIDS erroneously believe that by having sex with a virgin -- even a baby -- they will be cured of AIDS or their HIV infection.

South African police statistics show that last year alone, 21,538 rapes and attempted rapes of children under the age of 18 were reported. The KwaZulu-Natal province, which includes Durban, where concern has already been expressed over the sharp rise in child abuse cases, was top of the list with 4,797 reported cases in 2000, followed by Gauteng province (formerly Transvaal, which includes Johannesburg) with 4,316.

www.sundayindependent.co.za...

South Africa has the highest rates of rape in the world, according to Interpol, and the highest incidence of HIV. The National Prosecuting Authority tells us that 50 percent of all cases before South African courts are for rape, except in Durban and Mdantsane, where it is 60 percent.

Although the Law Reform Commission estimates there are 1,7 million rapes a year, on average only 54 000 rape survivors lay charges each year. Why? It is because rape survivors are treated so badly by so many.

Every time a rape survivor does not lay a charge, she allows a rapist or rapists - because 75 percent of rape in South Africa is gang rape - to believe he or they can do it again. And he or they will. Again and again, until a rape survivor does battle with the police, doctors, psychologists and the courts to get the justice she deserves, and to protect the next woman

southafrica-pig.blogspot.com...
and check out this thread......www.abovetopsecret.com... Traumatised South African children play 'rape me' games by palehorse.
m x
ps in a way it could be agued that education has great bearing on the issue of violence towards children and as a contineum women...www.psychohistory.com... , more of an education regarding respect, empathy and love towards others rather than a uni degree

[edit on 13-3-2009 by morganathefey]

Ahh yes, nothing like showing lesbians how great it is to be with a man by raping them. "Ohhh so this is what I have been missing?" How much more can this country(or at least parts of it) move backwards.